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| Adam , Toronto |
Jan 18 2008, 10:39 AM
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My girlfriend signed with Summitt Energy , i have called in to cancel the same day when she binded the contract with them she called the guy and he tried to sell her some cheap "talk" saying she will get re-confirmation of the contract and she can decide if she wants it Yes or No. I recorded the phone conversation and told the guy i am cancelling on the same day i have binded the contract and i am recording him and i stated the conract # and rep #. I also faxed in and emailed the cancellation which i have proof for. I hope they don't try to pull a stunt.
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Jan 18 2008, 11:22 AM
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My girlfriend signed with Summitt Energy , i have called in to cancel the same day when she binded the contract with them she called the guy and he tried to sell her some cheap "talk" saying she will get re-confirmation of the contract and she can decide if she wants it Yes or No. I recorded the phone conversation and told the guy i am cancelling on the same day i have binded the contract and i am recording him and i stated the conract # and rep #. I also faxed in and emailed the cancellation which i have proof for. I hope they don't try to pull a stunt. Why do you call it a scam OP? |
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| Derek |
Feb 22 2008, 07:46 PM
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| Ken, Kanata, Ontario |
Apr 1 2008, 04:30 PM
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I work for summitt its not a scam...its actually 100% canadian and its actualy price protection that you are being offeried. not fixed rate like direct or OES..... you WILL save money with this progrom and they will protect you... Oh no it's not a scam.. but you guys sure are liars! One of your guys paid a visit to our area (Kanata, Ontario). They are going door to door asking to see your hydro and gas bills and saying that you are entitled to a cash rebate. I asked him if I have to sign a contract with them and they said no. What a load of crap! When you read their customer agreement it actually says you are appointing them to be the sole supplier agent. |
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| Doug |
Apr 8 2008, 12:55 PM
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I work for summitt its not a scam...its actually 100% canadian and its actualy price protection that you are being offeried. not fixed rate like direct or OES..... you WILL save money with this progrom and they will protect you... I just received a hydro bill from Summitt Energy (It is double). I looked up another "Summit Energy" however they are in Louisianna and are of no affiliation. The Sales person a this summit shared that they receive a lot of angry calls about the Canadian Company. When I called the Summit Energy (Canadian without the second T) they dont answer and actually when one person did they just let the phone sit there. I could hear their birds chirping. Why wont they answer the phone and why did they double my Hydro bill when they proclaim they will save you money??? If you dont get an answer Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! on the phone 877-222-9520, you can visit their website at summittenergy.ca/ont/res.htm Future Class action case? Tricking people into a contract under false pretences is... as far as I know, illegal and makes the contract null and void or fraud. |
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| Dwayne |
Apr 10 2008, 08:56 AM
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Oh no it's not a scam.. but you guys sure are liars! One of your guys paid a visit to our area (Kanata, Ontario). They are going door to door asking to see your hydro and gas bills and saying that you are entitled to a cash rebate. I asked him if I have to sign a contract with them and they said no. What a load of crap! When you read their customer agreement it actually says you are appointing them to be the sole supplier agent. I signed up a month or 2 ago and I was wondering if any one knows what the penalties are for cancelling? You are all right on them being liars. First the sales man comes to the door and shows me his badge. Then tells me that everyone on the block is being put on this program and asks for my bills. Then he goes on to tell me that for the next 5 years my bills will never go up from what I am paying at this moment. (sounds good but wait) So he takes my bills rights down some numbers and gives me a form to sign, after this he quickly leaves. When I look over the paperwork he handed me after he is gone it shows that my rate has preaty well doubled. Call me crazy but is a verbal contract null and voided by a writen? |
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| Ashley |
Apr 12 2008, 11:23 AM
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I just received a hydro bill from Summitt Energy (It is double). I looked up another "Summit Energy" however they are in Louisianna and are of no affiliation. The Sales person a this summit shared that they receive a lot of angry calls about the Canadian Company.
When I called the Summit Energy (Canadian without the second T) they dont answer and actually when one person did they just let the phone sit there. I could hear their birds chirping. Why wont they answer the phone and why did they double my Hydro bill when they proclaim they will save you money??? If you dont get an answer Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! on the phone 877-222-9520, you can visit their website at summittenergy.ca/ont/res.htm Future Class action case? Tricking people into a contract under false pretences is... as far as I know, illegal and makes the contract null and void or fraud. A sales man came to my door and asked for me to sign a contract with them. I told him no and that my husband actually deals with all the bills. That same sales man signed my signature for me and we started getting really high gas bills. In the mean time they called my house every other day trying to get my husband to finalize the contract saying that I had already signed it and they needed over the phone confirmation from him. We have since had the program canclled for us because the company (summitt energy) themselves have admitted that he (the sales man) did infact sign my name. This company will SCAM you. We have since been fighting with them to re-emburse us for the full year of over charges. To this day we have not recieved a cheque. |
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| stupid people |
May 5 2008, 10:48 PM
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i work for this company, and honestly all of you people who sign up a absolutely #@$*&^% stupid learn to read the fine print, ask questions before you sign and take responsibility because no one can force you into this crooked companies contract
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May 13 2008, 09:45 PM
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i work for this company, and honestly all of you people who sign up a absolutely #@$*&^% stupid learn to read the fine print, ask questions before you sign and take responsibility because no one can force you into this crooked companies contract QUOTE no one can force you into this crooked companies contract wait a minute....... If its crooked why do you work for them??? Cmon tell us the real deal about SUMMITT ENERGY?lol |
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| Ella |
May 16 2008, 07:21 PM
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This evening, I arrived to my North York apartment around 7 o'clock. 5 minutes later someone started pounding my door like crazy. I run to open the door thinking there's a fire or some kind of emergency, and saw a tall guy standing there. Before I could ask what's happening, he said he's from the "Hydro company", (no mention of names, trying to trick me to thinking he's from Toronto Hydro), and he said "There's a change to your account, bring your hydro bill" in a aggresive and authoritative tone. I told him I won't buy anything from him,and started to close the door, but he blacked the door with one hand and said he's not selling anything and again ordered me to bring the bill. I got kind of scared and told him I don't have a bill. He said "you have electricity, right? So you receive and pay bills." I said I pay online and don't have bills at home. He told me to sign the paper showing that I recived the visit form the Hydro company and find the number and give it to him. (It of course was a contract and he was lying) And all this in a very very aggresive tone. I told him I won't and pushed his hand and closed the door. I'm an immigrant from Eastern Europe, and I speak with an accent. Guess he assumed that if he scares me enough, I will be panicked and sign a paper and not understand it. Obviously I CAN read and understand what I read, so he was mistaken, but he might very well be succesful in conning an older person or a new immigrant.
After he left I realized I'm shaking, obviously very distressed by his abusive behaviour. I can't believe our government allows this people come to our buildings and blatantly run a fraud scheme. I know I should have called 911, but I was kind of in shock, and just sat down and try to get over what happened. But next time I know that I'm calling the police if some guy tries to force my door. He showed me no IDs, and the only information I have is, from sneaking a peek at the paper he tried to force me to sign, that he's from Summit Energy. |
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| kris |
May 19 2008, 06:01 AM
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I just received a hydro bill from Summitt Energy (It is double). I looked up another "Summit Energy" however they are in Louisianna and are of no affiliation. The Sales person a this summit shared that they receive a lot of angry calls about the Canadian Company.
When I called the Summit Energy (Canadian without the second T) they dont answer and actually when one person did they just let the phone sit there. I could hear their birds chirping. Why wont they answer the phone and why did they double my Hydro bill when they proclaim they will save you money??? If you dont get an answer Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! on the phone 877-222-9520, you can visit their website at summittenergy.ca/ont/res.htm Future Class action case? Tricking people into a contract under false pretences is... as far as I know, illegal and makes the contract null and void or fraud. |
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| kris |
May 19 2008, 06:24 AM
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No offense, but how can you possibly blame the sales agent for your negligance to read a one page document before signing it. Pure laziness.
Agents SOMETIMES don't remind us that registering for a program can involve registering for a few cents higher initially than what appears on the bill at the time; the benefits are to be seen over the five year period of no increases that without a program, you would be subject to every three months. It's up to you to not be ignorant, and to have vision for a the pricing over a five year period. It's not brain surgery. Gas a non- renewable resource, and electricity created ,for the most part, non-renewable resources. As the population quickly increases and the supply quickly decreases, ask yourself what logically that will do to the price of gas over a 5 yr. period? As we phase out coal to create electricity (one of the cheaper sources to use) and replace it with more expensive sources, which we are in the process of doing now, what do you think that will do to the price of electricity. Deregulation is about the public's right to choose. I for one am glad to have this choice, and these agents made me aware of this choice. If you don't agree with each of us having the oppurtunity to make this choice for ourselves, instead of having a monopoly, perhaps you should move to communist community: it wouldn't be a problem there! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! |
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| kris |
May 19 2008, 06:48 AM
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wait a minute....... If its crooked why do you work for them??? Cmon tell us the real deal about SUMMITT ENERGY?lol The real deal is that on July 1st Embridge gas is increasing it's cost of gas charge. They've put in for a 40 percent increase to just the natural gas cost on the bill. That would bring the cost of gas to approx. 42 cents per cubic meter, from the 30.3 cents reflected on the bill right now. You can register with a Summitt in the high 30's currently for a five year term and not be subject to the next 20 adjustments to the cost of a non-renewable resource. Yes high 30's is higher than what's currently reflected on your bill , however it takes 2 months approx. to process, putting you past the July 1 period anyhow. You do the math. Which price would you rather pay come July, and for the next 5 yrs. Those uneducated on the program, being unaware of all of this, and registering for a program, just see that in July they are all of a sudden paying high 30's for their gas, not 30.3 and freak out. All of a sudden their claiming Summitt Energy is a scam, whereas if they've taken the time to understand how the program is designed to work... I actually heard a lady complaining about this "scam" costing her money, when in reality she had been paying 19 cents for quite sometime, and the gas cost had been in the 30's for most of her usage in the five year p-eriod so far. It's fear and uneducation that start these "scam rumars" I will give these Na-sayers one thing though, some agents are too aggressive at the door. In their defense, they deal with alot of negativity throughout the day (death threats, people sicking dogs on them) because people aren't willing to give the explanation a chance. It must be frustrating, when they know it's good, but people aren't willing to listen to the logic. They have a job to do just like the rest of us. Imagine receiving death threats on a daily basis at your job, just for doing your job. |
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| KO |
May 19 2008, 06:59 AM
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How do you figure that it's a future class action suit, that when the contract that ONE OF YOU signed very clearly states the purpose of the agents goals, and what the program is, in no uncertain terms. Are you to say that you can sue someone for your own negligence.
They'd laugh you out of court. It's not stupid to sign for a program if that's what you want to do, it is however stupid to sign something you havn't read. Why don't you take responsibility for your own stupidity. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! |
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| Scam |
May 20 2008, 04:12 PM
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a guy from Summit just came to my door an hour ago , he said he was with the hydro company and wanted to make sure my husband and I recived our rebate, he asked to see our bills and then showed us that we have not recived our rebate, he said in order to clear this up we had to simply sign this form he had and it would show up on our next bill. he showed us his clip bord and the contract was half hiden under his other papers so that only the part where we sign was visable. I said can I read this paper before we sign it and he kept on saying that it was just a form for our rebate. I told him that I wanted to read it before I signed and graped it off his clip bord and saw that it was a five year contract for a fixed gas price , I was pissed. I told him to leave and that it was wrong of him to try to trick us.he said he was just trying to help us with the rising cost of gas , and I said well you dont do it by lieing and trying to trick people into signing contracts with out discloser.
I am calling the Better Business Bureau tomorrow and making a complaint and I am angry enough to see this all the way through , I am also going to write to my local newspaper and let them know how Summit is trying to trick people into signing contracts. Hope you all have a good night Cheers Andrea St.Catharines ON |
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| Chandra Nichols |
May 21 2008, 04:37 PM
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Summit Energy have fraudulently taken over my account from Veridian. Summit Energy claims to have recorded permission by me to do so, but thus far have failed to produce any such recordings, as I never called.
Summit Energy’s rep. came to my door claiming that they were checking to make sure I am set-up properly, they had a Veridian folder, the guy pulled out a paper to ensure that all my info was correct on it and told me that they were apart of Veridian, I signed the paper to say that the set-up was done properly. I have tried to speak with them many times but receive abusive comments on the phone, then a hang up… I have sent letters to Veridian informing them that I would like Summit Energy removed from my account, but Veridian reply by saying that is something I have to deal with, with Summit Energy. I am not the only one who Summit Energy has fraudulently attached themselves onto; there are over 200 hundred other consumers some of which live in my community. I am seeking your cooperation in going after Summit Energy publicly, please contact me ASAP. Chandra Suzanna Nichols Pickering Ontario suzanna@zannaspublicitygroup.com The real deal is that on July 1st Embridge gas is increasing it's cost of gas charge. They've put in for a 40 percent increase to just the natural gas cost on the bill. That would bring the cost of gas to approx. 42 cents per cubic meter, from the 30.3 cents reflected on the bill right now.
You can register with a Summitt in the high 30's currently for a five year term and not be subject to the next 20 adjustments to the cost of a non-renewable resource. Yes high 30's is higher than what's currently reflected on your bill , however it takes 2 months approx. to process, putting you past the July 1 period anyhow. You do the math. Which price would you rather pay come July, and for the next 5 yrs. Those uneducated on the program, being unaware of all of this, and registering for a program, just see that in July they are all of a sudden paying high 30's for their gas, not 30.3 and freak out. All of a sudden their claiming Summitt Energy is a scam, whereas if they've taken the time to understand how the program is designed to work... I actually heard a lady complaining about this "scam" costing her money, when in reality she had been paying 19 cents for quite sometime, and the gas cost had been in the 30's for most of her usage in the five year p-eriod so far. It's fear and uneducation that start these "scam rumars" I will give these Na-sayers one thing though, some agents are too aggressive at the door. In their defense, they deal with alot of negativity throughout the day (death threats, people sicking dogs on them) because people aren't willing to give the explanation a chance. It must be frustrating, when they know it's good, but people aren't willing to listen to the logic. They have a job to do just like the rest of us. Imagine receiving death threats on a daily basis at your job, just for doing your job. |
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| Chandra Nichols |
May 21 2008, 04:40 PM
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Summit Energy have fraudulently taken over my account from Veridian. Summit Energy claims to have recorded permission by me to do so, but thus far have failed to produce any such recordings, as I never called.
Summit Energy’s rep. came to my door claiming that they were checking to make sure I am set-up properly, they had a Veridian folder, the guy pulled out a paper to ensure that all my info was correct on it and told me that they were apart of Veridian, I signed the paper to say that the set-up was done properly. I have tried to speak with them many times but receive abusive comments on the phone, then a hang up… I have sent letters to Veridian informing them that I would like Summit Energy removed from my account, but Veridian reply by saying that is something I have to deal with, with Summit Energy. I am not the only one who Summit Energy has fraudulently attached themselves onto; there are over 200 hundred other consumers some of which live in my community. I am seeking your cooperation in going after Summit Energy publicly, Please contact me 905-492-1665 or by email:. suzanna@zannaspublicitygroup.com May 21, 2008 My girlfriend signed with Summitt Energy , i have called in to cancel the same day when she binded the contract with them she called the guy and he tried to sell her some cheap "talk" saying she will get re-confirmation of the contract and she can decide if she wants it Yes or No. I recorded the phone conversation and told the guy i am cancelling on the same day i have binded the contract and i am recording him and i stated the conract # and rep #. I also faxed in and emailed the cancellation which i have proof for. I hope they don't try to pull a stunt.
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| Chandra Nichols |
May 22 2008, 01:58 PM
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Hi Everyone,
I receive report from the Better Business Bureau today May 22, 2008 stating that Summitt Energy IN NOT IN GOOD STANDINGS, it was suggested that consumer must make individual complains to the Ontario Energy Board, so please do ASAP, keep in mind many home owners in my community and other communities are coming together to bring Summitt Energy to justice in the manner in which this company has fraudulently place our accounts with their company.... we go public in a 4 business days... feel free to contact us 905-492-1665. Chandra May 22, 2008 My girlfriend signed with Summitt Energy , i have called in to cancel the same day when she binded the contract with them she called the guy and he tried to sell her some cheap "talk" saying she will get re-confirmation of the contract and she can decide if she wants it Yes or No. I recorded the phone conversation and told the guy i am cancelling on the same day i have binded the contract and i am recording him and i stated the conract # and rep #. I also faxed in and emailed the cancellation which i have proof for. I hope they don't try to pull a stunt.
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| Nearly took by Summitt |
May 23 2008, 12:46 PM
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My wife was duped into signing up with Summitt <sic> last year. Very long and frustrating story, we had to engage the OEB but got out of the contracts because their sales rep intentionally stale-dated the contract. Therefore the re-affirmation call was placed before the 10 day cooling off period thus the contract was illegal. They refunded the monies and canceled the contract. Then they re-appeared on the bill. I was furious and called them. They refunded the monies again on a handwritten check (again). I deposited it and that was the end of it. There is no way this is an up and up company with sales tactics like this. They are a cruder and clumsier version of Universal Energy, whom you should also look out for.
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| jj |
May 27 2008, 06:38 PM
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Hi Everyone,
I receive report from the Better Business Bureau today May 22, 2008 stating that Summitt Energy IN NOT IN GOOD STANDINGS, it was suggested that consumer must make individual complains to the Ontario Energy Board, so please do ASAP, keep in mind many home owners in my community and other communities are coming together to bring Summitt Energy to justice in the manner in which this company has fraudulently place our accounts with their company.... we go public in a 4 business days... feel free to contact us |
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| Sammy |
May 28 2008, 01:39 PM
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Hi Everyone, I receive report from the Better Business Bureau today May 22, 2008 stating that Summitt Energy IN NOT IN GOOD STANDINGS, it was suggested that consumer must make individual complains to the Ontario Energy Board, so please do ASAP, keep in mind many home owners in my community and other communities are coming together to bring Summitt Energy to justice in the manner in which this company has fraudulently place our accounts with their company.... we go public in a 4 business days... feel free to contact us Hi... I just threw a guy from Summitt off my property. Their sales tactics are deplorable. I live in Ontario and immediately searched the web for info on this company. They hide behind their registration with the Ontario Energy Board. I have sent a compliant to the OEB via their website (for any ppl in Ontario, that's at https://www.errr.oeb.gov.on.ca/FeedBack/OEB_FeedBackForm.asp ). I found this forum, read a few of the posts and immediately went to my elderly neighbours' houses to make sure they didnt sign. Needless to say, this dude is going to have a hard sell on my street tonight. Thanks for the great posts. p.s. Even if you sign a contract after READING it, if you dont understand it, sign it under duress or signed it based on misleading information, the contract is VOID. |
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| cellphonescanner |
Jun 2 2008, 08:55 AM
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I work for summitt its not a scam...its actually 100% canadian and its actualy price protection that you are being offeried. not fixed rate like direct or OES..... you WILL save money with this progrom and they will protect you... This guy is a little weasle. Summitt poster boy that hides under his boss's Ray Richer's skirt. This company is nothing but a rip off from the ground up the Ottawa office mostly they train the employee's to rip off the customers through lies They also do the same thing to the employee's I strongly suggest if you want your last paycheck to not tell them anything get the check and get the hell out. The quicker you do this the better your life will be. I also wanna post that Ray Richer isnt a self made millionare but a spoiled rich kid spending daddys money ripping people off. Even his wife is a snake she works at the Ottawa office with him and sleeps with the employee's Will got you i guess it was about time someone got you eh Ray. I wonder if he got his last paycheck. D |
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| Stellabella |
Jun 5 2008, 01:49 PM
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I just slammed the door on one too .... big bruiser of a guy. I just saw his Summit i.d. and said, not interested, and closed the door. Even thru the closed door he kept yelling his BS sales pitch. Creepy.
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| Stellabella |
Jun 5 2008, 01:50 PM
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I just slammed the door on one too .... big bruiser of a guy. I just saw his Summit i.d. and said, not interested, and closed the door. Even thru the closed door he kept yelling his BS sales pitch. Creepy.
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| Nearly took by Summitt |
Jun 6 2008, 08:10 AM
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One of these energy marketer types came by. I told the guy to his face his company was crooked to which he replied "We're licensed by the Ontario Energy Board". That's roughly akin to saying you couldn't be charged with motor-manslaughter because you held a valid drivers license. I resisted the temptation to argue this point with him and told him to get off my property and to go an |