Conspiracy to vote down the New Government, are in effect wresting democracy from Canadians
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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:03 AM
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Not Another Election!!!! Are They Mad!!!! Harper is furious...
determined to go against the will of Canadians and install Dion


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this shows up these thieves of democracy..damn Liberals. Criminals the lot!

Listen to Harper speak...
http://www.thestar.com/News/canada/article/545828

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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:04 AM
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What has happened to our once democratic nation...
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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:05 AM
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this is the tactics of scoundrels and cowards
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universal child
post Nov 29 2008, 10:25 AM
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They are not making any sense as the opposition partys main concern is funding for an election as say they don't stand much chance to win without it. So they what are going to call an election they say they don't stand a chance to win? Am I missing something here because the opposition sure is lacking any common sense nows that the time to call an election we just had one and we have an economic crisis going on. I do beleive Harper could probably sit out the election and still come out way ahead with the group think thats going on. Sounds like these guys are a bunch of poor losers.
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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:29 AM
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They are running scared like mad dogs...they haven't a clue UC
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post Nov 29 2008, 07:16 PM
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Jean would have little choice but to accept coalition pact, experts say

Constitutional experts say the brief lifespan of the current federal government obliges Governor-General Michaƫlle Jean to give the opposition parties a chance at power should the Conservatives fall.Ms. Jean is prepared to cut short a trip to Europe if she is needed in Ottawa to determine who will hold power, an aide said yesterday. "Her Excellency is very aware of her constitutional responsibilities. Contingency plans are in place for her to return to Canada should this be required," the aide said in a written statement.

Ms. Jean will likely be able to complete her trip and return next weekend after Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced late yesterday that any confidence votes will be delayed until Dec. 8.

But, because the last federal election was held just six weeks ago, experts say the Governor-General is obligated by precedent to let the opposition parties form a government if they can prove they have the confidence of the House of Commons.


Minorities are rarely taken down so soon at the federal level in Canada.

Former prime minister Joe Clark's Conservatives lasted six months after they were elected in 1979. His government's defeat prompted an election. The controversial King-Byng affair of 1925 occurred when the governor-general of the day, Viscount Byng, refused to call a vote when the minority Liberals - led by William Lyon Mackenzie King - were defeated after eight months.

Louis Massicotte, an expert in governmental affairs who has advised the Chief Electoral Officer, said yesterday that "there is an overwhelming case for an election not to be granted in the present circumstances."

If the Conservative government is defeated the week after next, that will be during the first sittings of the new Parliament, he said.

"I have literally dozens of precedents on my side taken from British history and from Canadian history and the parliamentary history in the Canadian provinces," Mr. Massicotte said. "They suggest that whenever a government is defeated during the first sittings of a new Parliament, the practice is that there will be no election."

Ned Franks, a renowned Canadian constitutional expert, agrees. Both he and Mr. Massicotte pointed to the Ontario election of 1985 in which Frank Miller's Progressive Conservatives won a minority. That government quickly fell.

In that case, Liberal Leader David Peterson signed an agreement with the New Democratic Party assuring that the NDP would not defeat a Liberal government for two years. The Liberals were then permitted to take power.

In the current situation, the three opposition parties would have to produce a written agreement guaranteeing support for a Liberal government or a Liberal-NDP coalition, Mr. Franks said. The agreement would have to be made public and it would have to specify that it remained in effect for a set period of time.

If Ms. Jean is indeed presented with that option, she will probably have to take it, he said. "I think it's her duty so soon after an election."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ittle+choice%22

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AA Lavey
post Nov 29 2008, 07:22 PM
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Shows how short of content and agenda the opposition parties are. If you think you are going broke now just wait until Layton and the seperatists have a say on the economy.
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?
post Nov 29 2008, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE (DocWatson @ Nov 29 2008, 11:03 AM) *
Not Another Election!!!! Are They Mad!!!! Harper is furious...
determined to go against the will of Canadians and install Dion


Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!

this shows up these thieves of democracy..damn Liberals. Criminals the lot!

Listen to Harper speak...
http://www.thestar.com/News/canada/article/545828


...I don't often agree with you, Doc. However, this time I have to admit, the Liberals would be making a big mistake. They have neither the mandate, the number of seats nor the support of the people. Only 25% of the vote, 25% of the seats? Plus the electorate really punish the Liberals and NDP next time out for putting us through this mess. Especially with a weak leader like Dion. They should accept that they lost the election, get over it, let Harper govern. Maybe get him to compromise so we're not thrown into another election. Just back off from his pledge to cut the subsidies. Compromise on both sides. I don't want to see another election. Altho I voted Liberal, I don't want to see them govern. Harper won fair and square. It's his time and his government. Liberals should graciously accept the last election result and get rid of Dion. I genuinely hope Harper backs down a bit, has a meeting with the 3 parties, leave their subsidies alone, so we can all have some peace. O/W it's chaos and insanity. Madness? I agree.
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Nat
post Nov 29 2008, 09:26 PM
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They aren't going to just bring down the government, the NDP & Liberals plan to form a coalition government with the Bloc backing them. The coalition of the NDP / Liberals have to go to the governor general with an written agreement with a time period stated that they agree to work together for.

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?
post Nov 29 2008, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (Nat @ Nov 29 2008, 10:26 PM) *
They aren't going to just bring down the government, the NDP & Liberals plan to form a coalition government with the Bloc backing them. The coalition of the NDP / Liberals have to go to the governor general with an written agreement with a time period stated that they agree to work together for.


...And you know what? That's even worse. A dweeb like Dion running our country? No mandate from the people? I hope it does not happen. They've no right to be there if they lost. The voters'd surely punish the Liberals and the NDP next time out.
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Nat
post Nov 29 2008, 09:32 PM
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They do have the right, the Prime Minister of Canada is voted in by the parliament. If the NDP & Liberals get the bloc to vote with them they can vote in a new Prime Minister Dion Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9009594.html

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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:13 PM
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The Night of the Long Knives..or How We Lost Our Nation

The people of Canada have spoken for a second time and they want the Conservative Government to lead the nation..not Constitutional Criminals. We are not a third world country!
Using the GG to allow co operation with these criminals. She woill be he one to push the KNIFE IN!
Canada cannot run by committee. THERE MUST ALWAYS BE ONE LEADER OR NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Stand On Guard Oh Canada! Or Democracy will be over!!!!!

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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:18 PM
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National
This is how constitutional criminals work by deception they will wrest democracy from all of you and you will have no choice but to accept. This is a serious threat to our democracy folks!These are times when we need co-operation not divisivness.
I knew she couldnt be trusted...
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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE (Nat @ Nov 29 2008, 09:32 PM) *
They do have the right, the Prime Minister of Canada is voted in by the parliament. If the NDP & Liberals get the bloc to vote with them they can vote in a new Prime Minister Dion Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9009594.html



Not when they go against the will of the people they dont have a right.. NAT. You are wrong there..that's stealing! We are not in a constitutional crisis..and that's the only time it can be done...this is outright robbery from Canadians who definately dont want Dion!
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DocWatson
post Nov 29 2008, 10:23 PM
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That worm Michelle Jean will thrust the knife in...
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Nat
post Nov 29 2008, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (DocWatson @ Nov 29 2008, 10:22 PM) *
Not when they go against the will of the people they dont have a right.. NAT. You are wrong there..that's stealing! We are not in a constitutional crisis..and that's the only time it can be done...this is outright robbery from Canadians who definately dont want Dion!


You are wrong the voters of Canada do not vote for a Prime Minister the members of parliament do. If the majority of the members of parliament vote for Dion it will be Dion! The Conservatives didn't not win a majority nor did they have more then 50% of the vote.

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?
post Nov 29 2008, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE (DocWatson @ Nov 29 2008, 11:23 PM) *
That worm Michelle Jean will thrust the knife in...

I shore hope not. Dion'd make a terrible PM. The Liberals need to regroup, think about where they're going. Give themselves time to formulate a better strategey. It's best that they not try to usurp power from the Tories. They are the rightful rulers, ruling party.
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wing
post Nov 30 2008, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE (? @ Nov 29 2008, 10:52 PM) *
I shore hope not. Dion'd make a terrible PM. The Liberals need to regroup, think about where they're going. Give themselves time to formulate a better strategey. It's best that they not try to usurp power from the Tories. They are the rightful rulers, ruling party.



Why...because the Conservatives ads say so?

I always thought Liberals and NDP gutted each others votes. Now they know they need each others votes to defeat the Conservatives. Guess who also did this tactic?...Tories + Reform = Conservatives. Next election there will be one Center left party (with Green being the extreme left).
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dogingbullets
post Nov 30 2008, 01:11 AM
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I'm so appalled and disgusted by the opposition parties. We elected the conservative now they are trying to change the government without our consents. They are robbers ! They are the "axis of evil" !
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heinzy
post Nov 30 2008, 07:37 AM
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Pretty disgusting alriight.

We are talking 'bout Liberals , right? And those buffoony , worn out retreads.

Maybe Harper should call it bluff and end up with a decisive majority.

Who is to say those disgraceful narcists don't pull that stunt off again , whenever they feel like it?

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sim
post Nov 30 2008, 08:20 AM
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i voted green. they had no chance of winning a seat here or anywhere else. the only reason i voted for them was to give them the money my vote provides. im betting a lot of other people vote that way.

the conservatives first action as a government would be to take that money back. they are the theives doc watson. they are the party that is best financed by contributions from their supporters and this is their way of imposing punitive action on the other parties.

steven harper is a mean spirited, controlling, micro managing, manipulative dweeb.

the money they save from this measure is inconsiquential in solving the financial crisis, a crisis that during the election he denied would affect canada at all by the way. are you guys all cheering for a recession too. remember that line.
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post Nov 30 2008, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE (sim @ Nov 30 2008, 09:20 AM) *
steven harper is a mean spirited, controlling, micro managing, manipulative dweeb.


...Maybe so, but this is no way to bring him down. The Liberals especially, have to re-group, hold a convention, get a new platform, get a new leader and if they want to gain power, then they should do it with an election, not usurpation. Otherwise, it'll look like a coup and the coalition which they're thinking of assembling appearing fraudulent. And that would only come back to haunt them because the voters'd punish them even worse the next time. Plus, Dion is terrible leader and would make and equally terrible PM. He should be tossed aside like dead wood, not resurrected. The Conservatives actually did the Liberals a favor, by defeating them and handing them opposition status in a minority government. That's the best of all worlds. A chance to rebuild with a new leader, new platform, and they're in contention in 6 months. Who could ask for a better script? Furthermore, given the rancor in parliament, this government might not last for another year. You never know.

Anyway, with the slowing economy, I wouldn't want to be in power right now anyway. The party in charge has a very tough job. I wish them the best of luck, be they Liberal or Conservative.
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sim
post Nov 30 2008, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE (? @ Nov 30 2008, 08:36 AM) *
...Maybe so, but this is no way to bring him down. The Liberals especially, have to re-group, hold a convention, get a new platform, get a new leader and if they want to gain power, then they should do it with an election, not usurpation. Otherwise, it'll look like a coup and the coalition which they're thinking of assembling appearing fraudulent. And that would only come back to haunt them because the voters'd punish them even worse the next time. Plus, Dion is terrible leader and would make and equally terrible PM. He should be tossed aside like dead wood, not resurrected. The Conservatives actually did the Liberals a favor, by defeating them and handing them opposition status in a minority government. That's the best of all worlds. A chance to rebuild with a new leader, new platform, and they're in contention in 6 months. Who could ask for a better script? Furthermore, given the rancor in parliament, this government might not last for another year. You never know.

Anyway, with the slowing economy, I wouldn't want to be in power right now anyway. The party in charge has a very tough job. I wish them the best of luck, be they Liberal or Conservative.


you are 110 correct. the worry is without the buck seventy five per vote they wont be able to rebuild. i am probubly a little to eager to see harper get his cum uppance.
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DocWatson
post Nov 30 2008, 02:57 PM
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now you can see the crackpots we have as alternative choices...extremely bad! This has been a test and a risky one at that and it worked; it brought them out a they really are and showed Canadians who they are really are....tin pot bums and criminals worthy of third world countiries and their Juntas.
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DocWatson
post Nov 30 2008, 03:01 PM
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the worms are more interested in lining their own nests during hard times rather than weathering out the storm as a helpful coalition.Look, there's the failed ex-PM, Chretien working behind the scenes to make matters even worse.Who the heck does he think he is...
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DocWatson
post Nov 30 2008, 03:07 PM
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National
Disgusting....we are headed into unchartered waters with an international financial collapse and this is the behavior of these nincompoops. However a masterstroke from Harper to reveal these 'Poindexters' true selves.
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DocWatson
post Nov 30 2008, 03:09 PM
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http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Canada/200...582171-sun.html
Winnipeg Sun
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DocWatson
post Nov 30 2008, 03:12 PM
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http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2008/1...581591-sun.html
Harpers constituents speak out
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StraightTalk
post Dec 1 2008, 11:36 AM
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