http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

The American Civil War (1861–1865), also known as the War Between the States and several other names, was a civil war in the United States of America. Eleven Southern slave states declared their secession from the U.S. and formed the Confederate States of America (the Confederacy). Led by Jefferson Davis, they fought against the U.S. federal government (the "Union"), which was supported by all the free states and the five border slave states.

Hello StraightTalk, I know this, but what are you saying? And what are you comparing it with for now days?

Because the Conservatives received a stronger Minority government this time around.

The Coalition between Liberals, NDP & BQ will kill Canada.

I would rather go down fighting for the Conservatives then let them take charge without an election.

I would have to agree with you StraightTalk

I can see it now.

If the Coalition takes over, then there will most definitely be a non-cofidence vote & more waste of tax payer money.

If we let Quebec seperate, the Conservatives would have had a majority (let alone stronger minority, since the last time around) to make things more efficient & get the job done now.

There can be no good coming out of the coalition -- especially when Quebec was enticed with more, more, more free taxpayer MONEY.

They will give themselves all a raise & fly around 1st class.

Then raise taxes on everyone else.

What a circus.

This post has been edited by StraightTalk: Dec 1 2008, 02:34 PM

And who tried to entice Quebec before the last election with taxpayer's money, but failed! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!

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This post has been edited by Nat: Dec 1 2008, 03:09 PM

It wasn't taxpayer's money -- that's the difference. Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!

http://www.vigile.net/Taxpayers-fund-95-per-cent-of-Bloc

Taxpayers fund 95 per cent of Bloc’s financesCash-for-votes scheme gives separatist party more than $700,000 Jack Aubry

The Ottawa Citizen
jeudi 24 août 2006

The Bloc Quebecois, whose main goal is to achieve Quebec sovereignty, is dependent on Canadian taxpayers for its national funding.

At least that’s what recently released quarterly financial figures from Elections Canada seem to indicate, as the Bloc’s headquarters only collected $27,566.96 in contributions between April 1 and June 30 this year while taking in $727,092 from the Canadian government.

Benefiting from the federal political financing law, which was brought in by former prime minister Jean Chretien, the Bloc and other federal political parties are receiving $1.75 for each vote garnered in the January election. Following a complicated formula, the parties are collecting about 44 cents a vote for the quarter from the treasury.

The revelation that more than 95 per cent of the sovereigntist party’s finances come from federal coffers has even irked some separatists.

In a letter printed in La Presse yesterday, Nestor Turcotte harshly denounced the Bloc for accepting the money.

"The Bloc Quebecois is opening itself to ridicule by being subsidized by the country that it wants to leave," he wrote.

"Its indecency scandalizes more than one observer of the political scene ... day by day, the Bloc has become the biggest joke on Parliament Hill," wrote Mr. Turcotte, described as a longtime separatist.

However, Bloc spokeswoman Catherine Bourgault-Poulin said the released figures were incomplete because they don’t reveal the fundraising taking place in 75 Quebec ridings by the party’s riding associations. She said the Bloc has made its riding associations independent of the national office and they’re allowed to keep the money they raise during the year.

Unable to release the mid-year total in the ridings, Ms. Bourgault-Poulin estimated the total amount of fundraising, which will not be released by Elections Canada until the end of the year, will range in the millions of dollars.

Bloc leader Gilles Duceppe, who is attending his party’s caucus retreat in the Eastern Townships, also told reporters the figures were misleading and the party receives the majority of its funding from supporters in the province.

The Bloc, which vows to leave Ottawa only once Quebec is a country, justifies its existence in the House of Commons by vowing to protect the interests of Quebec. The party says Quebecers pay federal taxes and it’s simply collecting back its fair share.

But Mr. Turcotte dismissed this argument in his letter, saying taxes in general are meant to maintain the common good of the country.

"If Albertans had an independent party in Ottawa, subsidized by all Canadians and Quebecers didn’t have a similar party in the central government, they would without doubt be the first to protest such an unnatural gesture," he wrote.

The list of recent quarterly allowances sent out by Elections Canada show the Conservatives will collect about $2.5 million as the top vote getter, while the Liberals take in about $2.1 million, the NDP $1.2 million and the Green party $310,867. Meanwhile, the Conservatives have raised about $4 million in the last quarter while the Grits have brought in about $1.2 million.

The summary of the Bloc Quebecois’s finances also reveal contributions fell dramatically from January until the end of March, when it raised $147,855.

This post has been edited by StraightTalk: Dec 1 2008, 02:56 PM

Here's a great response that I read from someone else:

This amounts to a CONSTITUTIONAL COUP of a democratically elected government. The comparisons to the crisis of 1926, which the current opposition parties claim as precedent is unfounded. In 1926 Canada was still governed by the British North America Act [although I may be wrong on the name], we still flew the British Union Jack as a flag, we didn't have our own national anthem, and we still sang 'God Save the Queen" at any public event. To suggest that after just 7 weeks in office, when parliament has only resumed in the past few weeks, that the opposition has lost confidence in the Conservatives, is nothing more than trying to take away the votes of the Canadian people. The Governor General must allow Canadians to go to the polls again period. If this was any African or third world country and the opposition was trying to change the results of an election weeks ago, the western world would be up in arms at the actions of our opposition parties, particularly with one party of separatists involved in any way shape or form.

Sorry but coalition governments have been part of Canadian history since 1864. Maybe you should read your history!

Do you realize that it is 2008 today? You are using 1864 as precedence?

And do you realize many things that were around back then simply doesn't work today?

Get with the times.

LOL

Besides I am too busy working & posting on DV to read about sh1t that doesn't work for me today (but I remember being a student, smoking sh1t & talking politics & philosophy...care free stupid days...).

This post has been edited by StraightTalk: Dec 1 2008, 05:12 PM

Part of history sure but formed during the term?

LOL

There are many things around today that just was not long ago.

Like acceptance of same sex couples...

It is a power grab by the Liberals, NDP & BQ.

They made this a contingency plan. How much time passed, since the last election let alone economic crisis.

Slapping all Canadians in the face during tough economic times.

They will line their pockets & then we will all have to pay for it in the future -- when you want to retire. NOT.

LOL

This post has been edited by StraightTalk: Dec 1 2008, 05:15 PM

So Canada has become a setting stage for a WEST (Conservative) Vs. EAST (Liberals, NDP, Bloc) Showdown.
I say.......
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

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or not, gee I seem to remember two parties and a coalition, what was it now? Oh ya the Reform Party and the Progressive Conservative, remember they wanted to call themselves the C.R.A.P. Party. The Canadian Reform Alliance Party. Alliance, coalition, we're splitting hairs as people realize Mr Hairdo is on his way out so its hissy fit phasers on stun.

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