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What's happening tp Canada?
  yoe
post Dec 1 2008, 01:09 PM
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There is going to be a coalition with the NDP, Liberals and the separatists Bloc? Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!

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  Frenk
post Dec 1 2008, 01:10 PM
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no
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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 01:12 PM
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Canada is breaking apart at the political scene? Well it's about time. Quebec should separate as a sign of good will.
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  cooey
post Dec 1 2008, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (yoe @ Dec 1 2008, 01:09 PM) *
There is going to be a coalition with the NDP, Liberals and the separatists Bloc? Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!



if that does happen the separatists in PQ will get the power as their vote will be the swing vote on everything. Do you want that? Enough Lieberals will cross the floor and join the conservatives to give Harper a majority.

Dangerous game they play
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  cooey
post Dec 1 2008, 01:14 PM
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can anyone imagine dion the pion as PM and taliban jack layton as deputy PM? I must admit I can not envision such a crass duo running the show. Will the curtain even go up?.

Calmer heads will prevail
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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 01:19 PM
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Last time I checked, voters voted for their individual parties (example: Liberal, Conservative, NDP, Bloc, etc...), not a "coalition" that was going to ransack a minority government after the election. Talk about poor losers.
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  guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (yoe @ Dec 1 2008, 01:09 PM) *
There is going to be a coalition with the NDP, Liberals and the separatists Bloc? Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!



WE'RE ALL DOOMED. NO ONE WANTS DION AS PRIME MINISTER. YOU CAN'T SPEND YOUR WAY OUT OF A RECESSION
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  guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:24 PM
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Somebody has to grab the bull by the horns
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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (guest @ Dec 1 2008, 04:21 PM) *
WE'RE ALL DOOMED. NO ONE WANTS DION AS PRIME MINISTER. YOU CAN'T SPEND YOUR WAY OUT OF A RECESSION


We defiebitely don't want Celine Dion's uncle to distact us from the issues of corruption in the Gov't.
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  hmmm
post Dec 1 2008, 04:28 PM
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and THAT'S the way it iiiiissss....
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  guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Dec 1 2008, 04:27 PM) *
We defiebitely don't want Celine Dion's uncle to distact us from the issues of corruption in the Gov't.


How come naysayers always resort to name calling?
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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:31 PM
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How come naysayers always resort to name calling?


You have to be at least related to sombody in the entertainement industry to be taken seriously by the public up here in Canada.
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  guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:36 PM
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You have to be at least related to sombody in the entertainement industry to be taken seriously by the public up here in Canada.



You must be American no Canadian would say up here.
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  Cro-Mag man
post Dec 1 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Dec 1 2008, 01:19 PM) *
Last time I checked, voters voted for their individual parties (example: Liberal, Conservative, NDP, Bloc, etc...), not a "coalition" that was going to ransack a minority government after the election. Talk about poor losers.



We vote for a constituent. We elect a Parliament.

Whatever party has the support of the majority of the Members of the House of Commons is asked by the Governor General to form a government. In October this was the Cons under Harper.

Since the current government has apparently lost the support of the majority, the Governor General may be asked to form a new government.

It is very democratic. This is our Canadian system. If you want something different, get out and vote.

Mr Harper would do the same if the roles were reversed.

See this interview with him when he was the Leader of the Opposition.

AN INTERVIEW WITH STEPHEN HARPER


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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:40 PM
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ever heard of 'radical' Canadian voters? where you think and act like a politician in Ottawa who beleive their actions are above public scutiny.... don't be a sheep like the rest of Canadian voters.
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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (Cro-Mag man @ Dec 1 2008, 04:40 PM) *
We vote for a constituent. We elect a Parliament.

Whatever party has the support of the majority of the Members of the House of Commons is asked by the Governor General to form a government. In October this was the Cons under Harper.

Since the current government has apparently lost the support of the majority, the Governor General may be asked to form a new government.

It is very democratic. This is our Canadian system. If you want something different, get out and vote.

Mr Harper would do the same if the roles were reversed.

See this interview with him when he was the Leader of the Opposition.

AN INTERVIEW WITH STEPHEN HARPER

Really? So you support a party that wants to break up this country? A party that will have some say in our affairs? parlez-vous français?
Utter BS to mess around with something that is not broken. Why didn't they do this last time when the Conservatives had even less seats?
If this goes through, I can guarantee in the next election (less than 2 years) that the Conservatives will get in with a huge majority.
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  Uony
post Dec 1 2008, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Dec 1 2008, 04:57 PM) *
Really? So you support a party that wants to break up this country? A party that will have some say in our affairs? parlez-vous français?
Utter BS to mess around with something that is not broken. Why didn't they do this last time when the Conservatives had even less seats?
If this goes through, I can guarantee in the next election (less than 2 years) that the Conservatives will get in with a huge majority.

I agree. they will pay for sleeping with the separatist!
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  SaveCanada
post Dec 1 2008, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (yoe @ Dec 1 2008, 01:09 PM) *
There is going to be a coalition with the NDP, Liberals and the separatists Bloc? Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image! Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!



Do you want to be governed by a coalition involving Separatists?? The public should be outraged and Dion should be publicly flogged for making such a dealwww.nocoalition.ca
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  Freddie
post Dec 1 2008, 08:25 PM
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Democracy Sucks!!

Multi Party Democracy Even More!!
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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 09:27 PM
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What's wrong with the party that was elected? They got more seats than anyone else.
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  Cro-Mag man
post Dec 1 2008, 11:44 PM
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Really? So you support a party that wants to break up this country? A party that will have some say in our affairs? parlez-vous français?

I did not mention anything about what I support. That is entirely an assumption on your part.

Utter BS to mess around with something that is not broken.

That is right. The Parliamentary system is not broken. You are seeing it working as intended.

Why didn't they do this last time when the Conservatives had even less seats?

Clearly, this is because they maintained the support of the majority of the Members of Parliament during that time.

If this goes through, I can guarantee in the next election (less than 2 years) that the Conservatives will get in with a huge majority.

Your guarantee, is quite worthless.
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  Guest
post Dec 1 2008, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (Cro-Mag man @ Dec 1 2008, 11:44 PM) *
Really? So you support a party that wants to break up this country? A party that will have some say in our affairs? parlez-vous français?

I did not mention anything about what I support. That is entirely an assumption on your part.

Utter BS to mess around with something that is not broken.

That is right. The Parliamentary system is not broken. You are seeing it working as intended.

Why didn't they do this last time when the Conservatives had even less seats?

Clearly, this is because they maintained the support of the majority of the Members of Parliament during that time.

If this goes through, I can guarantee in the next election (less than 2 years) that the Conservatives will get in with a huge majority.

Your guarantee, is quite worthless.

So is your opinion.
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Goat Boy©
post Dec 1 2008, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (Cro-Mag man @ Dec 2 2008, 12:44 AM) *
That is right. The Parliamentary system is not broken. You are seeing it working as intended.

O rly? And all of us angry Liberal voters that most certainly did not vote for the BQ to ransom legislation and suck even more money out of the federal government? All they're doing is making sure that nothing accomplished by this possible government, will not be in specifically Quebec's best interests and a big middle finger to the rest of us. Heck they advertise it on their website, why do people ignore this?
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  To Quote Bud
post Dec 2 2008, 07:26 AM
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Have these Conservative Parrots forgotten that what's good for the goose, is good for the gander?

September 9, 2004

Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson,
C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D.
Governor General
Rideau Hall
1 Sussex Drive
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A1

Excellency,
As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister
to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some part of the government's program.
We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority.
Your attention to this matter is appreciated.

Sincerely,
Hon. Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P.
Leader of the Opposition
Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada
Also signed by Duceppe and Layton"
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  Cro-Mag man
post Dec 2 2008, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Dec 1 2008, 11:50 PM) *
So is your opinion.


I would not suggest an opinion was more than that. Why do you?
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  Cro-Mag man
post Dec 2 2008, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE (Goat Boy© @ Dec 1 2008, 11:51 PM) *
O rly? And all of us angry Liberal voters that most certainly did not vote for the BQ to ransom legislation and suck even more money out of the federal government? All they're doing is making sure that nothing accomplished by this possible government, will not be in specifically Quebec's best interests and a big middle finger to the rest of us. Heck they advertise it on their website, why do people ignore this?


Yes really. This is how our Parliamentary system works.

Make no mistake, Harper would do the same thing in this position as would anyone else. The responsibilities of the Official Opposition are quite clearly spelled out.


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  Guest
post Dec 2 2008, 09:49 AM
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This is NOT a Presidential system. You do NOT vote for a President.

You do NOT even vote for a government! I REPEAT... Canadians do NOT vote for a government!

You vote for a PARLIAMENT. P a r l i a m e n t. Get that in your head, you vote for Ministers of Parliament which make up the Parliament itself.

Parliament then chooses a government from the elected MP's, based on the confidence of the House. Any party with at least 1 MP can be the "government", and the leader of that party is the "Prime Minister". If the Marijuana Party elects 1 MP, and Marijuana Party attains the confidence of the House, then this Marijuana Party MP would be the Prime Minister.

Also, the Prime Minister is NOT the head of the state. The Prime Minister is simply the head of government, the government which requires the confidence of the House in order to stay on as the government.

Lots of ignorant people who watch too much American politics and therefore do not understand their own political system.
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  Pissed Off!
post Dec 2 2008, 09:56 AM
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What an outrage! makes you wonder why we vote in Canada at all when the public's voice can be silenced on the whim of a trio of mutinous power hungry bandits! Is this Canada or Cuba?

Liberals/NDP will never get my vote!
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kits
post Dec 2 2008, 10:02 AM
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Ok, I have read this thread to try to get an understanding of what is actually going on. I have not been able to do that. My head has been in the sand until this morning, I had no idea any of this was going on. Why is it happening? What did Harper do, if anything to cause this apparently unprecedented coalition?
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cc la femme
post Dec 2 2008, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (kits @ Dec 2 2008, 10:02 AM) *
Ok, I have read this thread to try to get an understanding of what is actually going on. I have not been able to do that. My head has been in the sand until this morning, I had no idea any of this was going on. Why is it happening? What did Harper do, if anything to cause this apparently unprecedented coalition?

The gleesome 3some did it on their own, spoiled little children playing games on the taxpayer's tab. In the end, voters will likely make them pay dearly.

Allying officially with Separatists, and being merely selfish opportunists will cost them.
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