IN 2004 HARPER WAS PLOTTING WITH SEPARATISTS
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oswald
post Dec 3 2008, 05:33 PM
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In 2004 HARPER WAS MAKING SECRET DEALS WITH SEPARATIST LEADER GILLES DUCEPPE TO DEFEAT PAUL MARTIN !


AND NOW HE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT LIBERALS HAVING A LEGITIMATE ALLIANCE WITH THE BLOC QUEBECOIS!


Picture below: Harper and is former SEPARATIST buddy Gilles Duceppe!

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post Dec 3 2008, 05:40 PM
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander!


Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson,
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Excellency,

As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the
Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister
to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons
fail to support some part of the government’s program.

We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together
constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We
believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give
you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the
opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising
your constitutional authority.

Your attention to this matter is appreciated.

Sincerely,

Hon. Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P.
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Gilles Duceppe, M.P.
Leader of the Bloc Quebecois

Jack Layton, M.P.
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anna
post Dec 3 2008, 06:10 PM
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Soon-to-be-former Prime Minister Harper had his chance, and he used it to try and bankrupt his competition. He could have used his position to solve the economic crisis and support families, but he chose to pull the primary funding from other parties while trying to cover up the deficit by selling crown assets. How can we trust someone who would waste our time and money like this?

The Liberal-NDP coalition is just what Canada needs. Lead by the Liberals and NDP, we will only experience the benefit of their action plans and leadership.

Mr. Harper, you blew your chance. Stop trying to waste our money pro-longing your defunct government. You can insult the Bloc or defend your faulty plans all you want, but it won't work. We aren't stupid. You can't try to spin this. You have lost, Mr. Harper.

I am part of the 62% majority and I support the Liberal-NDP coalition.

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Ryanissimo
post Dec 3 2008, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (oswald @ Dec 3 2008, 06:33 PM) *
In 2004 HARPER WAS MAKING SECRET DEALS WITH SEPARATIST LEADER GILLES DUCEPPE TO DEFEAT PAUL MARTIN !


AND NOW HE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT LIBERALS HAVING A LEGITIMATE ALLIANCE WITH THE BLOC QUEBECOIS!


Picture below: Harper and is former SEPARATIST buddy Gilles Duceppe!

Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!


Yeah, I heard about this on Global News today. Can anyone say hypocrite? Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!
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RealWoman
post Dec 3 2008, 07:55 PM
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I can! HYPOCRIT!
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Marion Morrison
post Dec 3 2008, 08:02 PM
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Plotting is not the same as as signing a deal.
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Marion Morrison
post Dec 3 2008, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (RealWoman @ Dec 3 2008, 07:55 PM) *
I can! HYPOCRIT!


Being a LIAR is worse than being a hypocrite. During the election Dion said he would not form a coalition with the opposition.
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RealWoman
post Dec 3 2008, 08:09 PM
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So he changed his mind - it happens often.
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Marion Morrison
post Dec 3 2008, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (RealWoman @ Dec 3 2008, 08:09 PM) *
So he changed his mind - it happens often.



So can Harper change his mind talking with the bloc. So thats mean he is a hypocrite? You just said people can change their minds.
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RealWoman
post Dec 3 2008, 08:23 PM
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Harper may have changed his mind, but he is still a hypocrite because he fits the definition. He can't take back talking to the Bloc in '04.

I would go as far as to speculate that Harper may be bitter that the Bloc chose to be in cahoots with the Lib/NDP over the Converatives. Kinda like a jaded lover who tells people her ex has a small penis because she's angry that he dumped her.

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economist
post Dec 3 2008, 08:25 PM
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Again I will show you how wrong you are. "I was talking to RealWomen about having sex with her" I didn't like certain things and thus I never did.

Harper Talked with the Bloc about certain things but didn't like certain things and thus they never did.

Liberals and NDP talked with the Bloc liked it all and signed on the dotted line and went ahead with the deal.
IT IS ALL TALK UNTIL YOU SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE. Harper never signed, Left wing Liberals did. DO YOU GET IT??
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shaq
post Dec 3 2008, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (oswald @ Dec 3 2008, 06:33 PM) *
In 2004 HARPER WAS MAKING SECRET DEALS WITH SEPARATIST LEADER GILLES DUCEPPE TO DEFEAT PAUL MARTIN !


AND NOW HE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT LIBERALS HAVING A LEGITIMATE ALLIANCE WITH THE BLOC QUEBECOIS!


Picture below: Harper and is former SEPARATIST buddy Gilles Duceppe!

Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!


He never signed a deal. As a true Westcoaster, I am strongly oppose to this coalition made of a Torontonian and two francophone.

The Liberals never even made an effort to make the new Parliament work. This is a pre-meditated attack by the idiots from the left and as anticipated the f*gs and bums here in Vancouver are all in the bandwagon.

Sad, very sad.

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Goat Boy©
post Dec 3 2008, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (Ryanissimo @ Dec 3 2008, 07:58 PM) *
Yeah, I heard about this on Global News today. Can anyone say hypocrite? Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!


A very small token to his defense, are attempted murder and murder one the same crime? Taliban Jack showed his true colors, that is for certain. Why, why, why can't the liberals clean up their act and start earning votes again?
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Goat Boy©
post Dec 3 2008, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE (shaq @ Dec 3 2008, 10:28 PM) *
He never signed a deal. As a true Westcoaster, I am strongly oppose to this coalition made of a Torontonian and two francophone.

The Liberals never even made an effort to make the new Parliament work. This is a pre-meditated attack by the idiots from the left and as anticipated the f*gs and bums here in Vancouver are all in the bandwagon.

Sad, very sad.


From what I have read, it sounds like it was pre-meditated by Taliban Jack, as a power grab. He offered it to Dion at the last minute and Dion jumped on it. Now he's bet the house, the reputation of the liberal party for years to come. It will be interesting to see what the party supporters will do in the confidence vote, because I don't believe for a second that they are all in the loop about this. Too quiet.
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RealWoman
post Dec 4 2008, 12:25 AM
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economist, so you are saying he is not a hypocrite because he never signed the document that was drafted with the Bloc, NDP and Conservatives? Sounds like symantics to me.
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Goat Boy©
post Dec 4 2008, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (RealWoman @ Dec 4 2008, 01:25 AM) *
economist, so you are saying he is not a hypocrite because he never signed the document that was drafted with the Bloc, NDP and Conservatives? Sounds like symantics to me.


By your logic, Taliban Jack is equally guilty. Will you throw him to the wolves as well? Just saying........ Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!
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RealWoman
post Dec 4 2008, 12:36 AM
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Seems like Jack Layton is all for coalitions...so what is he supposed to be guilty of?
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Goat Boy©
post Dec 4 2008, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (RealWoman @ Dec 4 2008, 01:36 AM) *
Seems like Jack Layton is all for coalitions...so what is he supposed to be guilty of?


Hmmmmmmmmm, secretly plotting with the BQ, exactly the same thing you are calling Harper a criminal for. Or is that discrimination on your part?
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RealWoman
post Dec 4 2008, 12:42 AM
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I am not calling Harper a crimal for plotting with the Bloc - I am calling him a hypocrite. I don't recall Layton going on air balking at joining up with the Separatists and saying it is a horrible idea when he was all for it in the recent past.

If you can't see the difference .... ????
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Goat Boy©
post Dec 4 2008, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE (RealWoman @ Dec 4 2008, 01:42 AM) *
I am not calling Harper a crimal for plotting with the Bloc - I am calling him a hypocrite. I don't recall Layton going on air balking at joining up with the Separatists and saying it is a horrible idea when he was all for it in the recent past.

If you can't see the difference .... ????


The mud throwing is a part of Ottawa, lessons learned from the Americans. You are judging based on that......?
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RealWoman
post Dec 4 2008, 12:50 AM
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*face palm* I am going to bed.
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economist
post Dec 4 2008, 07:24 AM
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YOU DON"T GET IT! IF HE WAS ALL FOR IT he would have signed a deal. If I was all for buying the house I would have signed the papers. I might have visited the open houses six times, talked with the agent about writing a offer and even had it inspected but until I sign on the dotted line and we agree to the deal THERE IS NO DEAL
HARPER NEVER SIGNED there was no deal. REAL WOMEN can't grasp this. NO MEANS NO now do you get it?????

(I was going to use the sex with you scenario but it made me sick)
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wing
post Dec 4 2008, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE (Marion Morrison @ Dec 3 2008, 08:02 PM) *
Plotting is not the same as as signing a deal.


I find it comical all the reasons Harper supporter differentiate Harper's dealing with the Block compare to Liberal\NDP dealing with the Block. If it smells like shit and taste like shit...it is shit. We still jail terrorist plotters...what's the dif?
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RealWoman
post Dec 4 2008, 12:08 PM
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economist

Since you obviously don't know how to read, let me clarify something for you - I never said Harper signed a deal.


Do you not understand that just because he didn't ink his name, doesn't mean he wasn't all for it? Fact is, you don't know why the deal fell apart, in other words who killed it. You can't say with 100% certainty that Harper wasn't all for it. In deals with 3 parties, if one doesn't sign or agree, then the whole thing falls apart and the parties walk away.

CAN YOU SAY HARPER WASN'T ALL FOR THE DAMN (unsigned) INKED DEAL??? If you can't, time to STFU!



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StraightTalk
post Dec 4 2008, 12:20 PM
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Dissolution is different than Coalition.

And this was not proposed 2 months after an election during tough economic times.

I am even more angered that they were upset about the party funding $1.75 per vote, MP salary freezes, limits to benefits & not bailing out GM & Ford without a proper business plan going forward.

F.ck the Coaltion power grab.

I would rather seperate than see that happen!

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wing
post Dec 5 2008, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (StraightTalk @ Dec 4 2008, 12:20 PM) *
Dissolution is different than Coalition.

And this was not proposed 2 months after an election during tough economic times.

I am even more angered that they were upset about the party funding $1.75 per vote, MP salary freezes, limits to benefits & not bailing out GM & Ford without a proper business plan going forward.

F.ck the Coaltion power grab.

I would rather seperate than see that happen!


I think the Conservative would be happy to have $1.75 per vote back. They're going to spend ga-zillion of dollars on ads trying to get Canadian on their side. They're going to be broke wan it's all over.
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