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You forgot George W Bush.

I forgot the 9/11 hijackers, the Taliban, Saddam Hussein, Uday and Qusay, Timothy McVeigh, the guy who shoots abortion doctors, Ku Klux Klan grand wizards, Rev. Fred Phelps, and maybe W. Bush. The list is enormous.

I better look out for these most-wanted people!What shall I do if I encounter one face-to-face??? :)

I think you got the definition of psychopath wrong. Please look it up in the dictionary again.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder Description Diagnostic CriteriaA pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: 1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) 2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love 3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) 4. requires excessive admiration 5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations 6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends 7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others 8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her 9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

As a forum manager on both Psychopaths and Narcissistic Personality Disorder I wanted to post up some links about the topic:I'm alone in my living room and I'm yelling at my TV. "Forget rehabilitation -- that guy is a psychopath." Ever since I visited Dr. Robert Hare in Vancouver I can see them, the psychopaths. It's pretty easy, once you know how to look.PSYCHOPATHS AMONG UShttp://www.hare.org/links/saturday.html/Pamela Jayne, M.A., writes that "30% of men are sociopathic." If about every three out of ten men I may meet are psychopathic, I would assume this is not something to take lightly. According to these statistics, that would mean every three out of ten men and maybe every one out of ten females. The truth is, we do not really know exactly how many individuals are psychopathic; however, there seems to be a rise in the prevalence of psychopathy and that is why some claim that numbers are higher.Special Report on Psychopathy http://www.cassiopae...hopath.htmThink you can spot one? Think again. In general, psychopaths aren’t the product of broken homes or the casualties of a materialistic society. Rather they come from all walks of life and there is little evidence that their upbringing affects them.Taken in part from MW© – By Caroline Konrad – September 1999THE PSYCHOPATH NEXT DOOR...http://chericola57.tripod.com/infinite.htmlOn Narcissistic Personality DisorderHello. Recognize me? No? Well, you see me all the time. You read my books, watch me on the big screen, feast on my art, cheer at my games, use my inventions, vote me into office, follow me into battle… Of course you recognize me. I am your inspiration, your role model, your savior, your leader, your best friend, the one you aspire to emulate, the one whose favor makes you glow. But I can also be your worst nightmare."Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited" The Introduction: The Habitual identity By Dr. Sam VakninKen Heilbrunn, M.D.http://samvak.tripod.com/kenintro.htmlI estimate one person in thirty, male or female, is a serial bully. Who does the following profile describe in your life?The Serial Bully – Tim Field the Field Foundationhttp://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htmAbove links courtesy of http://groups.msn.co...R/home1.msnwDr. Robert Hare, Professor Emeritus is from UBC. I am a Canadian too and managers of 6 forums on the topic. You know them, you've met them, learn as much as you can as fast as you can and proect yourself financially and emotionally.Take Carefemfree(financial & emotional freedom)What about the majority, the subclinical psychopaths milling all around us? At the moment, the only thing Hare and his colleagues can offer is self-protection through self-education. Know your own weaknesses, they advise, because the psychopath will find and use them. Learn to recognize the psychopath, they tell us, before adding that even experts are regularly taken in.Dr. Robert Hare Interview PSYCHOPATHS AMONG Us. “Take a Look Around” By Robert Herczhttp://www.hare.org/links/saturday.html/

You ask busrider what is society's solution to the psychopath. The answer is 'education'. The public, you and I, are highly susceptible. Given the freighteningly high numbers we read about, everyone reading this will be able to play 'spot the P' and identify the underlying personality disorder that the psychopath has. Whether that be Narcissistic Personality disorder of Antisocial Personality Disorder is the beginning of our awareness of them and what motivates them and how to deal with them.Treatment? Rehabilitation?“In fact, several studies have shown that existing treatment makes criminal psychopaths worse. In one, psychopaths who underwent social-skills and anger-management training before release had an 82 percent reconviction rate. Psychopaths who didn't take the program had a 59 percent reconviction rate.”Dr. Robert Hare Interview PSYCHOPATHS AMONG US Take a look around By Robert Herczhttp://www.hare.org/links/saturday.html/1992 Canadian study that found treated psychopaths reoffend more than psychopaths who are not treated. A larger study, just completed in Britain, shows the same.Beyond therapy: Some evil can't be curedNorman Doidgehttp://fact.on.ca/news/news0001/np000107.htmScary isn't it!!femfreehttp://groups.msn.com/NARCISSISTICPERSONALITYDISORDER/home1.msnwhttp://groups.msn.com/PSYCHOPATH/home.msnwThe Psychopath Characteristics - A Dirty Dozenhttp://groups.msn.com/PSYCHOPATH/characteristicsofapsychopath.msnwExcerpt: Without Conscience - The Disturbing World Of The Psychopaths Among Us by Dr. Robert Hare"He will choose you, disarm you with his words, and control you with his presence. He will delight you with his wit and his plans. He will show you a good time, but you will always get the bill. He will smile and deceive you, and he will scare you with his eyes. And when he is through with you, and he will be through with you, he will desert you and take with him your innocence and your pride. You will be left much sadder but not a lot wiser, and for a long time you will wonder what happened and what you did wrong. And if another of his kind comes knocking at your door, will you open it?"

duhhh...I got 49 normal friends, does that make me a psychopath?????

Um, so? Are you going to screen everyone before birth and if they're prone to psychotic episodes, we should abort the child? Why not do that for children who we know have Down's Syndrome or any other genetic defect? What about people who are born and will grow up to be alcoholics? What about psychopaths that arise out of a crappy environment? We can try to rehabilitate, we can try to put them away, but if somehow this "disease" is a problem of genetics and environment, how are we to stop it? If it's genetics, shouldn't we stop it before it starts and just kill 1 out of 50 male children? If it's environment, shouldn't we impose a standard on education, and brainwash everyone like in Walden II or Brave New World? Suck it up, Princess. It's how the world is. Deal with it.

Are the relevant to Vancouver of this entire thread is?

femfree or psychopaths amongst us are problee friends on the same team or the same person, going by the similarity of their posts... although they ought to be worried about each other...yes, most leaders, artists, bosses, astronaughts, inventors, politcians, status seekers are narcissists.so? i love how people think they can do something about OTHER people, yet never any mention of the work they are putting into changing themselves. don't worry about pathologies, unless it's your medical hobby to read up on all that.

I'm doing some Canadian research on Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)and would like to hear from any who have been diagnosed with this themselves - or have been a victim of someone with NPD. Are there any psychologists out there who have had experience with this problem?

Hey has anyone ever had success in divorcing  A NPD on the grounds of Emotional Cruelty, Abuse or Financial Abuse?

guess im a psycho then we all do those things to a degree

I worked with one recently seemed like a normal sharing give and take person until he got what he wanted, then he got very ugly. Stone cold guy "born again christian" lots of people to manipulate there.

"The Corporation" is an award winning movie based on the fact that,the corporation is a pschopath.

So someone with narcisstic personality has a greater sense of ego than the average person.

Does this disorder usually cause destruction or create a negative impact on those around them??

I went out with a girl that had 7 personalities, 4 were so horny she would drive me insane. 3 were so violent I would sleep with one eye open. When the relationship ended, she tried to punch me through the window on the top of the door as i was leaving . Gashing her forearm open requiring 37 stiches to close the wound. Whats the percentage of women that are violent and phychopathic?

Rod,I bet the sex was good.Crazy chicks are always better

You know it.

Canoe - Ive definately been a victem of someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder .
Needless to say I ditched the person when it started to get REALLY bad.

All hail pyschopaths.  We are not worthy.

All British Columbians are victims of the NDP!

Femfree and Psychopathsamongus is the same person. What's she doing posting on here acting like she supports Robert Hare's work? Does Sam the Sham know she's cheating on him? LOL Why is she posting links to her websites and Sam's books? Like you would do with the situation of other psychopaths, run away from her as fast as you can. Plagerism isn't ethical and neither is enjoying and exploiting the sorrows of others for your own "highs". She must be out trolling for Sam again. Book sales must've slowed down since so many from her groups have split into different groups and she has lost control of them. My syggestion to you that is if you doubt this message, contact the publisher of Sam's books and ask if he still promotes them or if Sam has filled his warehouse with his books and now pawns them on the internet. This is no joke. RUN people, RUN

TO ALL,,,,, i totally agree with you,,,,,femfree has crossed the line,, cannot be trusted... thats for sure!!!!! femfree,,, what are you up to this time??????????????????????? you are an np in sheeps clothing,,, anyone that knows you,, knows that!!!! like TO ALL said,, run, people run.... and dont ever read anything that sam v. writes,, he is a fraud!!!!!! a fake!!!!  there are n's and p's everywhere,,, and some enjoy coming to websites and screwing with people......... if you check into other p and n sites,, you will see femfree there, promoting sams work,,,,,,,,, dont go for it... WE ARE ON TO YOU,,,,, FEMFREE!!!! GIVE IT UP.....

the way I learned it being a scociopath and suffering from narcissistic personality disorder are 2 different things

Behind many male psychopaths there are psychopathic women...they just don't get as much press. Magdalena Goebbels, for example, or Robert Mugabe's wife.

Or that ugly bitch Charlize Theron played.

WHOA seriously
I think I just diagnosed myself with narcissistic personality disorder based on the definition. Anyone know where I can go for help now?

Numb

Posted - 7/2/2004 11:36:00 AM Narcissistic Personality Disorder Description Diagnostic Criteria A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: 1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) 2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love 3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) 4. requires excessive admiration 5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations 6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends 7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others 8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her 9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Its spelled : REDHEADHOTTIE
To anyone that has been trying to figure out what exactly is wrong with this girl, to anyone that has been reading her these past couple months since she started posting. This is it.

You're more then likely not Narcississtic. If you were, you'd feel too perfect to see yourself in any of the traits and you wouldn't be wasting your time with us other lowly people.

FEMFREE???  are you still hanging around??? i hope not........ you like to have your fingers in all of the pies,,,, DONT YOU????? i think you have nothing better to do than go from site to site and promote ole sam v....... im sure you are making tons of money doing this!!! stay away   YOU PSYCHO

mika

Posted - 11/3/2005 11:26:06 AM Numb Posted - 7/2/2004 11:36:00 AM Narcissistic Personality Disorder Description Diagnostic Criteria A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: 1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) 2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love 3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) 4. requires excessive admiration 5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations 6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends 7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others 8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her 9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes Its spelled : REDHEADHOTTIE To anyone that has been trying to figure out what exactly is wrong with this girl, to anyone that has been reading her these past couple months since she started posting. This is it.

ACTUALLY YOU LITLE C*NT AS I HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS BEHAVIOUR HAS TO BE PREVALENT IN ALL AREAS IN A PERSONS LIFE, AND PERVASIVE. AS WELL AS NOT ATTRIBUTED TO ANY OTHER LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES
I AM AN ANGRY SHORT TEMPERED PERSON THESE DAYS, REASON BEING  THAT I HAVE LOST SOMEONE TO MURDER FAIRLY RECNTLY.. WHEN I SEE OTHERS ON HERE WHO ARE DOING THINGS LIKE CHEATING ON THEIR SPOUSES/LOVES, DRUNK DRIVING, AND APPEAR NOT TO REALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT REALLIFE IT BOTHERS ME QUITE FRANKLY
AND I REACT ANGRILY...I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO LASH OUT WHEN I SEE OTHERS SCREWING UP IN WAYS THAT I HAVE LEARNED CAUSE LOTS OF PROBLEMS THATS WHAT MY "ATTITUDE" IS ATTRIBUTED TO: FRUSTRATON, AND ANGER AT THE FACTTHAT NO ONE SEEMS TO LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES ( OR THE MISTAKES OF OTHERS) UNTILL IT IS TOO LATE..NOT A PERVASIVE LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS AND A FEELING OF RESPECT FOR NO ONE BUT MYSELF AS THE DISORDER DENNOTES
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE AND MEDICALLY DIAGNOSE A PERSON YOU HAVE NEVER MET ONLINE ON THE BASIS OF A FEW COMMENTS THAT YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE REASON i MADE THEM

BTW AS I SAID A SOCIOPATH AND SOMEONE SUFERING FROM NARCISSITIC PERONALITY DISORDER ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS

Well, there's a label for me now?
I take care of myself; why not do the same?