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Chemotherapy - Is this the best our medical profession can offer after almost 100 years of research ????

I found the following interesting article, which touches on the origins of chemotherapy.

It may surprise most people to find out that one of the most common treatments for a variety of cancers is chemotherapy and that it actually has its origins in World Wars I and II.

Given that most people consider the treatment of cancer to be a war, then it shouldn’t come as much of a surprise.

The fantastic science of chemotherapy began because it was noticed that Mustard Gas caused the destruction of fast growing cells.

In the average human body, the fastest growing cells are hair follicles, stomach lining, immune system, bone marrow and hair follicles. This serves to explain why Mustard Gas was an effective agent of warfare damage to such major systems of the body would cause obvious illness and death.

After World War II, a number of other chemotherapy agents were developed, all of which operate in basically the same way: attacking and killing growing cells.

As an analogy, suppose you were to tell an exterminator that you have a termite infestation in your home. The exterminator, a profession whom you are entrusting, tells you that the best course of action will be to use a chemical which is known to eat away at both the wood and the foundation of homes, as well as causing irreparable damage to furniture and windows.

But, after all, you really do want to get rid of those termites, right?

Basically, the use of chemotherapy is the same type of treatment. Another way to look at it would be using a sledgehammer to open a peanut.

Chemotherapy is, admittedly, effective at reducing tumors because it’s a highly effective and toxic poison.

It’s designed to kill cells and it does its job very well.

It’s also very effective at hampering the human immune system, damaging the gastrointestinal system and, effectively, causing a great deal of damage to the human body plus advancing aging tremendously.

Chemotherapy treatments are effective at many things, especially at diminishing the quality of life for cancer patients.

Chemotherapy treatments also happen to be carcinogenic. Yes, carcinogenic.

Remember, a carcinogen is something that has been shown to increase the chances of developing cancer.

Returning the termite analogy, we can add that the chemical will saturate your home with a substance that is known to potentially attract termites again in the future. Who in the world would let this person exterminate their home using these chemicals?

This is one of the many reasons that it is so vitally important to pursue all of the available options to dealing with cancer.

Far too many doctors only consider the standard accepted treatments or panacea , such as chemotherapy, despite the well established health risks to the patient.

What has the medical community discovered about Cancer with the millions of dollars of research that have been invested - where are the [positive results of this research ? and why is a 100 year old treatement - The first treatments using Chemotherapy may prolong life for a yesar or so , but it is only for a while ....

Have they even progessed from that barbaric form of treatment that gives little hope for full recovery to the patient ,It may increase the lifespan by 18 to 24 months but depresses the immune system to the point that the cancer returns with a vengeance , then no treatment is available and the Cancer kills the patient soon afterwards on the 2nd round !!!

What have they learned and why are there no new treatements after all this time & money has been invested in Cancer research ???

Why are they not being forthright to the public about the causes of Cancer and the treatments that are available ?

This post has been edited by Yvr Man: 21 November 2009 - 07:13 AM

I've kind of wondered about chemo treatments as well and an alternative ways of treatment. But what form would a new type of treatment take other than radiotherapy? It would probably still be chemicals put into a patient. Chemo does work most of the time but it's those nasty side effects that take you down with it. The weight loss from chemo is dealt with by steroids and the low white cells and risk of infection is taken care of with antibiotics. I know, doesn't seem very efficient, the body gets turned into a war zone because of it.

Yeah right, YVR Man.
How about this story?

13 year old boy who was court order to have chemotherapy is now cancer free
If he followed his religious belief, he would have died.
http://www.discoverv..._1#entry4160365

Also from Terry Fox's Foundation had found a treatment and possible cure to the cancer that Terry Fox had.

Terry Fox Foundation Funded Research
After Terry lost his leg to cancer, he discovered that funding for cancer research in Canada was minimal. The motivation for his Marathon of Hope was to raise funds to help find a cure for cancer. The Foundation remains true to Terry’s wishes today by directing all funds raised in his name to cancer research.

The research funding provided by the Terry Fox Foundation is designed to stimulate Canadian investigators in a very broad spectrum of research having relevance to cancer. The research areas relevant to the Foundation’s mandate are Biological Sciences (studies in the biochemistry, genetics, immunology and molecular biology of cancer), Chemical Sciences (studies in carcinogenesis, drug development and drug delivery) and Physical Studies (studies in imaging, radiobiology and photobiology).
http://www.terryfox.org/Research/

This post has been edited by dwirn: 21 November 2009 - 08:42 AM

I was eating a continental breakfast in a hotel in Portland once and This lady started having respiratory problems. I heard her saying she was a smoker. I had no sympathy. They paramedics looked at me like I should clear out and give some privacy. Screw that. Her smoking problem was ruining my morning, not the other way around. I chowed down and read my paper.

I would really question my doctor before taking chemotherapy as I have heard it really only helps in five different kinds of cancer. I know one was testicular cancer and lymphoma but can’t remember the other 3.

I have a young niece will breast cancer right now taking chemotherapy and it makes me cry what she is going thru without any evidence of success in this area.

Nat, on 21 November 2009 - 10:15 AM, said:

I know somebody with Lupus, and I have to ask.....is it worth it? I couldn't imagine being in that position, she walks around permanently with a tube stuck in her chest to administer drugs. I just don't know.....what do you do with that? I think I would rather die, but then fear of death does some strange things to the mind.

Yur Man, have you any education at all? Why do you spread this kind of pure unmitigated bullshit?

Treatment for many forms of cancer has advanced rapidly over the past 25 years. There are millions of people alive toady, that would have died from their cancers 50-75-100 years ago.

Your lies about this can really hurt people.

Are you just ignorant, or are you just showing your abject stupidity?

My Father Passed away 10 years ago from Cancer. He did the Chemo ONCE... Made him sick as hell. The docs gave him 6-8 months and he chose a more homeopathic approach to his illness. It gave him 5 more years the docs couldn't.

Not saying this is the route for everyone, but in his case, it helped him to continue the career he was so fond of.

And yes, I miss him....

This post has been edited by PRDave: 21 November 2009 - 11:06 AM

Thanks to cancer research and improvements in treatment my wife is a cancer survivor. What's this b/s about there no advances? Like the tv commercial used to say "we've come a long way baby."

I took a general medical course once and when breast cancer was first treated they would cut both off with muscle and any other tissue connected.
I think they have come quite far.
My brother died of leukemia in the 60's now they would have saved him. A big issue with cancer is wrong diagnoses and people not getting checked.
My uncle will die now because he didn't get checked when he started hurting two years ago because he's a Macho man.
Get checked if it runs in your family often, especially after 40, it's your best hope, please.

they don't want a cure for anything, they want treatment so they can milk you as long as they can for money...like, tobacco and oil..they don't care if you live or die

Nano tech has been in the works for getting rid of cancer for a while now, if not for a lot of red tape we might have more cures.
We might have more bad things happening also on the other hand.
http://nanodigest.wo...ancer%E2%80%99/

I remember watching a tv documentary about a kind of cancer treatment that inject some metal in liquid form to the cancer cell and then user radiation to excite the molecules. When the metal vibrates, it would disintegrate the cell. The creator of this technology mention that there have been some clinical study that shows the effectiveness of the treatment. But I have yet to see it in hospitals. Also, I was thinking if the cancer cell disintegrates, does it not spread through the body causing more cancer?