U.S. Court rules Arar can't sue

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#1 Saturn

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 11:57 AM

Most Canadians do NOT believe that Arar was tortured in Syria.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 12:22 PM

You have no idea what most Canadians believe, this is just your personal opinion. And your personal opinion is wrong:

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RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli apologized to Maher Arar on Thursday and said he accepts all the recommendations of a report criticizing the RCMP's role in the Canadian's deportation to Syria, where he was tortured.

"Mr. Arar, I wish to take this opportunity to express publicly to you and to your wife and to your children how truly sorry I am for whatever part the actions of the RCMP may have contributed to the terrible injustices that you experienced and the pain that you and your family endured," Zaccardelli said.

The RCMP commissioner made the statement at the House of Commons committee on public safety and national security, which is looking at Justice Dennis O'Connor's report on the Arar case. "I accept the recommendations of the report without exception," Zaccardelli told the committee.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 01:51 PM

Qwerty, on 02 November 2009 - 03:22 PM, said:

You have no idea what most Canadians believe, this is just your personal opinion. And your personal opinion is wrong:

Nobody can guarantee that Arar was tortured in Syria. Deep down in his heart, Arar knows the truth. Soon Omar Khadr and his lawyers will also seek to fleece the Canadian people.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 02:06 PM

Saturn, on 02 November 2009 - 01:51 PM, said:

Nobody can guarantee that Arar was tortured in Syria. Deep down in his heart, Arar knows the truth. Soon Omar Khadr and his lawyers will also seek to fleece the Canadian people.

You think that the RCMP Commissioner and a Justice are lying? Why would they do that? The torture was also known by the UN and Amnesty International. Let's just say that you're wrong, no matter how much you refuse to believe it.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 02:12 PM

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 02:15 PM

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 03:26 PM

. . . so the canadian government doles out $10 million-plus in guilt money to this man (and to his attorneys) yet all the canadian government did was extradite him to the the states . . . yet the country that may have sent him to his torturers declares itself immune from prosecution . . .

. . . arar has probably used up all his harper cash on his legal bills. is arar getting abused in another conspiracy by the bar? or course . . .

. . . this man is a victim of bar extortion, as well as possibly other government mishaps . . .

SOME LIKE IT BRUTAL

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 08:27 PM

Qwerty, on 02 November 2009 - 05:06 PM, said:

Let's just say that there are very many Canadians like me who just do not believe that Arar was tortured.

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Posted 02 November 2009 - 08:41 PM

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No sure who exactly it was but didnt they lie about the YVR incident? He was some sort of RCMP commissioner or something

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:48 PM

Despite the rulings in Canada, the United States has not exonerated Arar, and has publicly stated it believes he has links to terrorist organizations. Arar and his family remain on America's watch list. It appears that Arar cannot enter and is not welcome in the USA.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:11 PM

Saturn, on 02 November 2009 - 08:27 PM, said:

Let's just say that there are very many Canadians like me who just do not believe that Arar was tortured.

Many Canadians, not most. I can't understand why it makes you feel better to disbelieve the obvious.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:13 PM

X Y Z, on 02 November 2009 - 08:41 PM, said:

No sure who exactly it was but didnt they lie about the YVR incident? He was some sort of RCMP commissioner or something

And in this case, the RCMP are in cahoots with the Federal Court of Canada, the UN, Amnesty International and the Red Cross. I don't think so.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:30 PM

Saturn, on 03 November 2009 - 12:48 PM, said:

The US has bungled a countless number of things in the war on terror. Hundreds of innocent people have been released from Gitmo alone. There are 400,000 names on the terror list, and 1,600 are added every day. You'll freak out with those numbers, while the rest of us will know that they're completely bogus.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 06:28 PM

Qwerty, on 03 November 2009 - 04:30 PM, said:

None of this proves that Arar is telling the truth, and none of this changes anyone's adverse opinion of Arar.

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Posted 03 November 2009 - 07:54 PM

Saturn, on 02 November 2009 - 11:57 AM, said:

Most Canadians do NOT believe that Arar was tortured in Syria.

Do you know Arar has never testified at any of the hearings.
Also he refused to be medically checked/tested for torture markings. Apprently medical tests can be carried out to determine the extent of any torture that may have taken place. Arar always claimed it would be too upsetting for him emotionally!!!!! I don't think he was very upset with the $ 10.5 M he got from Canadians...