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sunsu
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Apr 6 2008, 09:10 PM
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I am learning about the legislative branch in Canada.
During the law making process, members of parliament in the house of commes vote for bills. However, the government party has one or two more MP's than official opposition party have. Therefore, the bill is always passed as Prime Minister must trouble his MP's who do not vote for the bill; this is very unfair and opposition do not have opportunity to change the bills from the Prime Minister. Then, why do they vote? or why do even the house of commons exist? I do not understand the system. I believe that both the government party and oppostition party must have the same number of people, so law can be made fairly. |
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Saltydog
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Apr 6 2008, 09:23 PM
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In an abbreviated form:
Canada is a parliamentary democracy. That means that the government in power is formed by the party with the highest number of elected representatives (MPs) and the Prime Minister is the leader of that party. It becomes a minority government if the combined membership of the oppositiojn parties outnumber the party in power. If not, it is a majority government in which the individual members usually, although not always, vote with the party's Bills. The current Conservative Party is a minority government and could fall if the opposition parties "gang up". So, there is a tendency for the C party to formulate Bills that are acceptable to all. Is it a good system? Its messy but probably more responsible and responsive than the American Constitutional Democracy model. IMHO. |
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Gunta
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Apr 6 2008, 09:26 PM
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The point is to give the senate a reason not to be scrapped.
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| guest |
Apr 6 2008, 09:28 PM
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Do your own bloody homework!
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| guest |
Apr 6 2008, 09:29 PM
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Do your own bloody homework!
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sunsu
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Apr 6 2008, 10:58 PM
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In an abbreviated form: Canada is a parliamentary democracy. That means that the government in power is formed by the party with the highest number of elected representatives (MPs) and the Prime Minister is the leader of that party. It becomes a minority government if the combined membership of the oppositiojn parties outnumber the party in power. If not, it is a majority government in which the individual members usually, although not always, vote with the party's Bills. The current Conservative Party is a minority government and could fall if the opposition parties "gang up". So, there is a tendency for the C party to formulate Bills that are acceptable to all. Is it a good system? Its messy but probably more responsible and responsive than the American Constitutional Democracy model. IMHO. Why do MP's vote for bills, If the major party will pass the bills anyways, I know that the government party try to make the system to pass the bills to benefil themselves. However, the bills that Prime Minister make can be inappropriate, and opposition can not stop them, as the bills will be passed anyways by major party. I think there is no point of voting. Isn't the purpose of voting is to evaluate and choose good bills? |
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Oranje10 RVN.
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Apr 7 2008, 06:17 PM
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You're right, when a government has a majority there's very little the opposing MP's can do to pass/prevent a bill. They can talk about the bill, object to the bill, make suggestions to the bill.. but ultimately they can't directly influence the result. Non-governing MP's can, however, submit their own bills for deliberation. These are known as Private Member's Bills.
The odd time government's will put forth bills to a "free vote". This means that all MP's (300 or so) can vote any way they want on the bill. In other words, the government doesn't demand automatic support from it's MP's. Free votes are generally held on controversial issues (i.e., same-sex marriage). Hope that helps, -Oranje |
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