This Bill C-51 was designed to restrict our freedoms of using health products - apparently, including GARLIC.

Some information about it....

From Facebook group "Stop bill C-51 from banning all natural health products!"

"A new law being pushed in Canada by Big Pharma seeks to outlaw up to 60 percent of natural health products currently sold in Canada, even while criminalizing parents who give herbs or supplements to their children. The law, known as C-51, was introduced by the Canadian Minister of Health on April 8th, 2008, and it proposes sweeping changes to Canada's Food and Drugs Act that could have devastating consequences on the health products industry.

Among the changes proposed by the bill are radical alterations to key terminology, including replacing the word "drug" with "therapeutic product" throughout the Act, thereby giving the Canadian government broad-reaching powers to regulate the sale of all herbs, vitamins, supplements and other items. With this single language change, anything that is "therapeutic" automatically falls under the Food and Drug Act. This would include bottled water, blueberries, dandelion greens and essentially all plant-derived substances.

The Act also changes the definition of the word "sell" to include anyone who gives such therapeutic products to someone else. So a mother giving an herb to her child, under the proposed new language, could be arrested for engaging in the sale of unregulated, unapproved "therapeutic substances." Learn about more of these freedom-squashing changes to the law at the Stop51.com website: http://www.stopc51.com"

"TORONTO RALLY AGAINST BILL C-51 SATURDAY MAY 10
gather 10:30 AM start 11:00 AM
Queenʼs Park (South Side) Bring a banner, sign or wear a T-Shirt

On May 9th, 2008, Canadian citizens will be gathering at the Calgary Federal Court to protest C-51 and help protect their access to natural health products. Call 1-888-878-3467 to learn more, or visit the action page of Health Canada Exposed at: http://www.stopc51.com/c51/what_you_can_do.asp



At the same time that C-51 is outlawing herbs, supplements and vitamins, it would grant alarming new "enforcement" powers to the thug enforcement agents who claim to be "protecting" the public from dangerous unapproved "therapeutic agents" like, say, dandelion greens. As explained on the www.Educate-Yourself.org website (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/canadianC-51bill27apr08.shtml), the C-51 law would allow the Canadian government's thug enforcement agents to:

• Raid your business without a warrant
• Seize your bank accounts
• Levy fines up to $5 million and a jail terms up to 2 years for merely selling an herb
• Confiscate your property, then charge you storage fees for the expense involved in storing all the products they stole from you

C-51 would even criminalize the simple drying of herbs in your kitchen to be used in an herbal product, by the way. That would now be categorized as a "controlled activity," and anyone caught engaging in such "controlled activities" would be arrested, fined and potentially jailed. Other "controlled activities" include labeling bottles, harvesting plants on a farm, collecting herbs from your back yard, or even testing herbal products on yourself! (Yes, virtually every activity involving herbs or supplements would be criminalized...)

There's more, too. C-51 is the Canadian government's "final solution" for the health products industry. It's a desperate effort to destroy this industry that's threatening the profits and viability of conventional medicine. Natural medicine works so well -- and is becoming so widely used -- that both the Canadian and American governments have decided to "nuke" the industries by passing new laws that effectively criminalize anyone selling such products. They simply cannot tolerate allowing consumers to have continued access to natural products. To do so will ultimately spell the destruction of Big Pharma and the outdated, corrupt and criminally-operated pharmaceutical industry that these criminally-operated governments are trying to protect."


My wife depends on natural health products to prevent diabetes. Without them, she will become diabetic and depend on pharmaceuticals for the rest of her life. Not only she will depend on them- they will make her sick and unhealthy. This bill is really upsetting for us. It destroy our freedoms. It's all a malignant scheme that favours the pharmaceutical industry.

If this bill passes, me, my wife and my kids will be moving to another country - A FREE COUNTRY!

Maybe your wife should stop stuffing her fat pig face with shit, and then she won't become diabetic

You retard, it's a genetic condition. She's very lean and eats very healthyly and almost anything. If it wasn't for the natural products, THEN she would become fat and unhealthy and need drugs to survive.

Her blood sugar levels are just crazy. The natural health products we buy cost us a fortune but keeps her healthy and in good shape!

Now go back to the pitts of hell where you came from, loser!

Oh sorry, I thought you meant type 2 diabetes

So what exactly is your problem with insulin? Considering the alternative is to spend tons of money on natural products?

hey..

I think I heard something on the radio about the health minister having some ties to a pharma company..and they were saying he might be looking after his own intrests and stuff like that..

you got any info on that?

What I don't get is, where were all these freedom people when the government started regulating the pharmacy industry?

Go drink your bloody poison snake oil, fools!

My wife's problem is a very rare genetic disorder which doesn't even have a name yet. Her endocrinologist is puzzled.

whats fcuked up is that right now, if you're not down with the health products, you don't have to use them if you dont want to, but the government is not gonna leave an option to you anymore, because now they can regulate all natural products, and tax us..

Yes, god forbid that the government holds all products to the same standards, instead of just picking on the pharmaceutical industry

We do have dictatorship and these scare tactics are not new with elected
govt .They are just people like you and I, they have hearts, homes, families
and actually believe they are doing a great job. Until there are enough
people that just STOP sayNO and DONT" DO..I mean fine how many
people will the jails hold...with the gas prices..how many of you will STOP using gas?QUIT going to work and just STOP paying your bills..how many people can they throw out on sidewalk?????COMMON SENSE.!Even hydro it it not even legal for them to force or collect a DEBT RECOVERY is any body else out there collecting from customers to keep them in business???while they promote NUCLEAR as the only power source ??? But you and I (because no one will stand firm together because of FEAR) fear of losing hydro so let them turn it all off....then who is good guy??? and if we all did without then who would pay their bill and they would go UNDER! Why is there no competition in that area....talk about control!!

They (govt)want to see your reaction to see what opposition they have...as long as "they" CONTROL the masses the few small people using herbs is of no concern. They did the same with this Environment Plan and all it did was protect the big farmers that are the biggest poluters.Most people will be intimidated, scared and follow like good little puppies. Each and every one of you passionate opposers should quietly (sneakily) get into politics ...if we had ONE representative in each area would that not be more effective..birds of a feather flock together...you have to be a YES man to work for government, be insecure and not too grounded to buy into what they are selling but they actually think they are doing good.And believe you me most are puppets and do not have access to the actual HIDDEN AGENDA..Look at history and yet people are still lining up for free shots..no guarantee but then you can't sue and they are not responsible because you got it free...pay for it, ask them to sign a waiver and see where they run. We see the "massess" do approve..look at the $$ in health care..look at where its going ( I AM A FARMER I LIVE OFF THE LAND HEALTH COMES FROM BALANCED SOIL...I GET MY NUTRIENTS FROM THE PLANTS AS WAS INTENDED FROM CREATION ...NOT IN A PILL NOR IN A HERBAL TINCTURE ETC.) so I don't really get involved. I want to know where my food comes from how it is grown I feel and taste the difference...it is the mineral sugars in balanced high brix quality food that will regenerate healthy new cells, keep our immune strong and we do not get all these symptoms of dis-ease. I would just like to share a common sense idea...I drink fresh raw
milk, make my own cheese, soap, we grow our own spelt, get it milled, grind it and make our own bread...we have our own eggs, chickens and we eat our weeds we do not kill them. We eat raw in the summer and work WITH the rythums of nature and eat seasonal. THE WHOLE ISSUE IS WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE...TO TAKE AWAY OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT OF FREEDOM TO CHOOSE...pass whatever law, sell whatever poison, keep the nation sick but don't take away my freedom to choose.Money is power when you have that you are in control...that is all our government is about today but YOU the people elect them in..this is the "masses " choice. They are ones that want sick food, pasturized, etc.. I can drink raw milk grow and eat what I want and no one cares if I die, etc..they are only trying to protect themselves from lawsuits as they know the dangers and are driven by PHARMACEUTICALS...(these are the drug lords!) and they are very powerful the "masses" have made them rich beyond...it is all in our food system..if you knew how many dollars so called "poor farmers today" spend in spraying killing every living organism, then adding inoculants to sick seed to help it sprout and liquid fertilizer to boost it to grow..farmers today are spreading disease in their ignorance and choose to support the pharmaceuticals but the refunds, freebies they are given to grow their manipulated seed which is no longer balanced and another scare about shortage of grains...people could you live without your bread, biscuits, all the processed dead food it makes...puffed cereal with sugars, etc. DIABETES IS A VERY BIG MONEY MAKER..EVERY ONE TAKING INSULIN IS SPENDING BIG DOLLARS and it is so simple to cure..what caused it in the first place..some of these vaccines???our diet
has lots of sugar but no minerals...in nature real food is balanced with both
minerals and sugars ( or it rots and attracts insects to destroy it as it is not fit to eat that is intelligent Mother Nature protecting our food supply).If your pancreas are not working it is your LIVER that is deficient in MINERALS..Increase your minerals and it will correct itself.How many remember tasting sweet luscious food a delight and you feel good you feel the energy...and you are balanced and feel good and healthy. Herbs have their place and can be a stepping stone but they have become the health faddists QUICK FIX...you are what you eat...it may not be a bad thing if all these laws are passed maybe people willbe forced to practice SELF HEALTH and look to food supply LOCALLY and maybe you will try to save the LAND (that is GOLD) because you can survive on that with nothing else! instead of seeing huge chicken farms, pig farms and no one needs to eat
that amount of meat and it is not sold locally...all land today grows GRAIN not for you and I but for ANIMALS....think of all the sweet fruit, veggies,
that could eliminate your diabetes, chrohns, heart, etc, etc.
Get a piece of land and grow and support your self..you won't need a gym
and you will be rewarded for you efforts.

F UCKING GREAT POST
F UCKING HILARIOUS
HAVENT LOST YOU EDGE EH M

Yes, pretty much every company sends debts to debt collection, that's how the real world works

yes, that's how a business works. Of course then nobody would have electricity....

meh, it's 50/50. Here in Alberta the electric companies are privatised, and the costs aren't much less, and the service is even crappier.

YES IT IS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YPDXmEsQtQ

I'm with you, Sheila

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” –Thomas Jefferson

The problem with this law is that it trys to protect the gullible idiots in Canada. I say let homeopathic slime take all these idiot's money away. Let the weak get weaker (financially). It's better for me as I feel richer when these morons throw away their money at snake oil.

no worry, every year more pharmadope will get pulled of the shelves and the lawyer hungry wolves will be chewing on their asses bigtime, so if you have pharmaceutical stock, best get rid of it soon since the demise of several drug companies has already begun. Thankfully people are slowly beginning to understand that inorganic synthetic chemicals do not truly cure anything.. but rather cause more chronic diseases, which means more profit for pharma. but we are on to them..

Ever hear of the NEW 4th Reich? They are some sort of terrorist group, I think they call them the Canadian Medical and Cancer Society in Canada.

good quote:
Medical and pharmaceutical terrorism fits in a very specific category of terrorism described as “scientific terrorism.” but scientific terrorists do not use guns or bombs but instead use diplomas, impressive titles, official positions and medical organizations to drive stakes into our hearts..


Tips, who goes on to say that these kinds of terrorists tell us to:

• To take drugs when they are either unnecessary or contraindicated;
• To undergo surgery when either unnecessary or contraindicated;
• To undergo radiation treatment when either unnecessary or contraindicated;
• To undergo hospitalization when either unnecessary or contraindicated;
• That pesticide and herbicide residues in your foods will not hurt you or your children;
• That vitamin-and-mineral supplements are a waste of money and result in nothing more than expensive urine;
• That organic and whole foods are unnecessary and a waste of money;
• That expensive and costly regulations are necessary to protect your health; and
• That you are incapable of making "complicated" health and safety decisions affecting you and your family's health, which decisions are better left in the hands of the educated elite

When it comes to the trust issue one should never forget who built and ran the Auschwitz concentration camp. So great did I.G. Farben (then the greatest pharmaceutical firm in the world) regard the postwar potential of the Auschwitz project that it decided to make an unusual gamble on its future. Rather than let the German government finance the building of the installations, the I.G. directors voted to put up the funds to make I.G. Auschwitz a privately owned I.G. enterprise and to assume the entire risk and thus of course the entire responsibility.

At the end of WWII the allies split up IG Farben into companies that are now the top pharmaceutical concerns on earth among them Bayer, Hoescht, BASF, the Agfa-Gevaert Group and Cassella AG. Many of Wall Streets favorite pharmaceutical/chemical companies behind the proliferation of genetically-altered foods, transgenic animals, human cloning, dangerous psychiatric drugs, deadly vaccines and pesticides -such as Aventis- are subsidiaries of these same companies.

It is impossible to understand the politics of medicine and the history of the war on cancer without acknowledging the pharmaceutical companies historic tendencies to treat people like cattle. Most people today resent any mention of the Nazi horrors and who financed and administrated them for they have made a new religion out of worshipping these same companies and their products.

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Some interesting ref's?
http://webletter.net/cybrary/Facts.aft.perp.igpact.html

http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/should-yo...ogist/#_ednref3http://www.rense.com/general7/gw.htm

http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/should-yo...ogist/#_ednref4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben


I worked in healthcare for 20 years and from what I have seen gave me a healthscare.. Our system has nothing to do with heath or care and is one messed up system ran by corps. If we pay taxes we should have freedom to choose our therapies.

If this bill actually passed, I am heading to another country that offers more freedom to choose. Perhaps I should go to some third world country and plead persecution of freedom to choose from my government..lol.. and I don't even sell the stuff. I just hate to see personal freedom being taken away from nazicorporations. Hopefully the drug companies will get crushed within this decade.. and will be fun to watch them all get squeezed back by the millions of people that will be suing their arses off..

Daprof

nice post.

What does BC need Canada for anyway? People have been using natural herbs and remedies for thousands of years. What about water? is'nt that a natural substance?
Whatever happened to the Western Seperatist Party? Its getting to be like a Stalinist state. Lets give them the old finger like Trudeau did.

Screw em - just smuggle it from the US if they wanna play that game.

Standards are one thing. Banning is something else. Of course if the pharmaceutical industry is concerned about standards, perhaps they should look at themselves. Both types of products have a place in overall wellness.

Many of us that use herbal remedies are prescribed them by licensed doctors who have been trained in many schools of medicine. These remedies are EXTREMELY standardized and meet the high requirements of these physicians. We pay for them with our own funds. No insurance coverage pays for them. In the end we are saving our employment health plans and the Canadian Health Plan millions if not billions of dollars by not having to use those benefits or the system as much as we might. If our Health system is strained now, imagine where it will be under this legislation??? And what will be the cost to our economy in terms of lost productivity as individuals who had previously quietly and privately kept their health in check become too ill to work and contribute to our country???

Every one of us knows at least one person who is achieving miracles every day through the use of supplements and herbal remedies.

If you drink tea of any kind or coffee, you are using what will functionally be a controlled substance under this Bill. The very food you eat effects your health every day, will we have that regulated as well???

There are many things in this bill which have nothing to do with standards and everything to do with hood-winking the Canadian people and allowing politicians to change the face of this country without having to seek the approval of the citizens.

For this reason alone this Bill needs to be stopped. The HEALTH of our country is at stake in more ways than one.

Please read the Bill and aquaint yourself with the full contents of it. There are likely some good things in this Bill, but the bad things require that it be stopped. Let your M.P. know what should be in a new bill and what should not. They do not know what we want if we don't tell them.