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the King
post Jun 6 2008, 09:34 AM
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hey, if you can't turn your H1 visa to US Green Card, don't turn to Canada.
we don't need losers, we don't need cheaters either.

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post Jun 6 2008, 09:51 AM
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hey, if you can't turn your H1 visa to US Green Card, don't turn to Canada.
we don't need losers, we don't need cheaters either.


Canada is America's bitch.
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post Jun 6 2008, 10:17 AM
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then, Green Card seekers are Son of a Bitch
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post Jun 6 2008, 10:19 AM
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Canada is America's bitch.



we beat your asses and burn down the white house back in 1812
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post Jun 6 2008, 10:21 AM
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then, Green Card seekers are Son of a Bitch


I'm sorry but I don't know any Americans who are trying to move to Canada. Your country is not much and you have to come the use to make real money. Look at your screenwriters association...those pathetic dweebs snuck in the back door during the writers strike to steal jobs. Canada = tundra of worthlessness.
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post Jun 6 2008, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (Sefardic-Shinto-Male @ Jun 6 2008, 10:19 AM) *
we beat your asses and burn down the white house back in 1812


I would to see Canada try something similar in modern times. Attention: REGISTER / LOGIN to view the image!
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post Jun 6 2008, 10:27 AM
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I'm sorry but I don't know any Americans who are trying to move to Canada. Your country is not much and you have to come the use to make real money. Look at your screenwriters association...those pathetic dweebs snuck in the back door during the writers strike to steal jobs. Canada = tundra of worthlessness.



O, Canada! More Americans Heading North

t may seem like a quiet country where not much happens besides ice hockey, curling and beer drinking. But our neighbor to the north is proving to be quite the draw for thousands of disgruntled Americans.

The number of U.S. citizens who moved to Canada last year hit a 30-year high, with a 20 percent increase over the previous year and almost double the number who moved in 2000.

In 2006, 10,942 Americans went to Canada, compared with 9,262 in 2005 and 5,828 in 2000, according to a survey by the Association for Canadian Studies.

Of course, those numbers are still outweighed by the number of Canadians going the other way. Yet, that imbalance is shrinking. Last year, 23,913 Canadians moved to the United States, a significant decrease from 29,930 in 2005.

"There has been a definite increase in the past five years — the number hasn't exceeded 10,000 since 1977," says Jack Jedwab, the association's executive director. "During the mid-70s, Canada admitted between 22,000 and 26,000 Americans a year, most of whom were draft dodgers from the Vietnam War."

The current increase appears to be fueled largely by social and political reasons, says Jedwab, based on anecdotal evidence.

"Those who are coming have the highest level of education — these aren't people who can't get a job in the states," he says. "They're coming because many of them don't like the politics, the Iraq War and the security situation in the U.S. By comparison, Canada is a tension-free place. People feel safer."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3433005
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post Jun 6 2008, 10:29 AM
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U.S. immigration to Canada at 30-year high, but fewer Canadians moving to United States


Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON–It was a popular vow of apprehensive Democrats in 2004, a pledge made in the heat of battle to move to Canada if George W. Bush was re-elected.

Turns out, some of them did.

An analysis of immigration statistics done by the Montreal-based Association for Canadian Studies showed the number of Americans who moved to Canada in 2006 hit a 30-year high, almost double the number who moved north in 2000 when Bush was elected for a first term as U.S. president.

The analysis also showed the southward brain drain is being narrowed somewhat, and most of the American migrants are highly educated people who may be moving to Canada for quality of life and social reasons.

The numbers were not huge – 10,942 Americans moved to Canada last year, far smaller than the influx predicted when bogus maps of the United States of Canada began hitting the Internet in the waning days of the 2004 campaign.

The day after Bush was re-elected president, there were 191,000 hits on Canada's immigration website, six times its average traffic, most of it from the U.S.

Websites sprouted explaining the mechanics of the Canadian immigration system, and Canadian women, tongues in cheek, offered to marry anti-war Americans.

But the increase is symbolic, said Jack Jedwab, the executive director of the association that analyzed the statistics. "Given that most of these immigrants are university-educated or better, you can assume they can find work in the U.S., so the move must be based on other reasons,'' Jedwab said.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada reported that 49.5 per cent of the Americans who migrated to Canada in 2006 had at least a bachelor's degree.

Jedwab said anecdotal information points to politics, health care, social issues, possibly even the strengthening Canadian dollar as lures northward, he said.

For 34-year-old labour organizer Tom Kertes, the move last April from Seattle, Wash., to Toronto was based on human rights.

"The words `human rights' are foreign words in the U.S.,'' Kertes said.

"They only apply to other countries.''

He moved to Toronto with his partner Ron Braun and the two plan to marry, something they could not do in Washington state.

He also cited the war in Iraq and the torture of Iraqi prisoners by Americans – and the failure of the Bush administration to clearly disavow such practice – as contributing factors to what is a major decision.

"Moving countries is not done lightly,'' he says.

He said he found the tolerance of Toronto welcoming and he thought Canadians were proud of their reputation for tolerance.

The 2006 figure marks the first time there have been more than 10,000 American migrants to Canada since 1981 and was the highest number since 1977.

Between 1967-75, a period marked by draft dodgers fleeing the Vietnam War, there were at least 19,000 Americans who fled north each year.

While the number of Americans moving north jumped, the number of Canadians moving to the United States declined to 23,913 in 2006 from 29,930 in 2005.

The net loss to Canada of 12,971 was the smallest since 2003 and slightly more than half of the loss suffered by Canada as recently as 2001 when 24,089 more Canadians moved south than Americans moved north.

The two largest categories of U.S. immigrants were the family class and economic class and Jedwab says he believes the numbers will continue to rise because of the family class of immigration.

"Once you reach a certain critical mass, the family reunification numbers tend to keep the numbers increasing,'' he said.

There was a large jump in the number of American refugees in 2006, but those were largely Haitians who received refugee status in the United States then moved to Canada.

Ontario – particularly the GTA region – was the destination of more than half of the U.S. migrants, far outpacing British Columbia and Quebec, the second and third most popular destinations.

Perhaps the most surprising aspect of the study is the attention it has received in the United States where it was first reported by abcnews.com.

It has become a hit on the blogosphere where many Americans have reacted with venom to those who have left the country and some 80,000 persons voted on whether they would move to Canada within hours of the question being posted on an aol.com site.

"If every American who didn't like George W. Bush left the country, there would be no one here but illegal immigrants,'' one blogger wrote.


http://www.thestar.com/News/article/243555



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the King
post Jun 6 2008, 10:32 AM
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I'm sorry but I don't know any Americans who are trying to move to Canada. Your country is not much and you have to come the use to make real money. Look at your screenwriters association...those pathetic dweebs snuck in the back door during the writers strike to steal jobs. Canada = tundra of worthlessness.


well, i'm not talking about Americans coming to Canada.

i'm talking about those people who live and work in the US for some years under a work visa like H1 etc. and who tried to get US green cards but couldn't get or too difficult for them.

then, these people turn to Canada and use the current immigration system of Canada.
it is much easier and Canadian Gov. (so stupid) does give them Permanent Residence.
after getting their Canadian IDs, these people are likely to return to the USA.

so, basically Canada gets nothing (if it needs more people), USA gets what it doesn't want (too many such people).

do you get my point now? there is a loophole here.

i mean, it may be to your interest (as American) to help build pressure to the Immigration Canada, so as to make sure those people unwanted by your gov. WON'T get back to your country as Canadians.

and, the Canadian public won't get punished by tighten borders/ stricter border measures, because of a bunch of such people.
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post Jun 6 2008, 11:08 AM
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WTF
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post Jun 6 2008, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (Sefardic-Shinto-Male @ Jun 6 2008, 10:29 AM) *
U.S. immigration to Canada at 30-year high, but fewer Canadians moving to United States


Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON–It was a popular vow of apprehensive Democrats in 2004, a pledge made in the heat of battle to move to Canada if George W. Bush was re-elected.

Turns out, some of them did.

An analysis of immigration statistics done by the Montreal-based Association for Canadian Studies showed the number of Americans who moved to Canada in 2006 hit a 30-year high, almost double the number who moved north in 2000 when Bush was elected for a first term as U.S. president.

The analysis also showed the southward brain drain is being narrowed somewhat, and most of the American migrants are highly educated people who may be moving to Canada for quality of life and social reasons.

The numbers were not huge – 10,942 Americans moved to Canada last year, far smaller than the influx predicted when bogus maps of the United States of Canada began hitting the Internet in the waning days of the 2004 campaign.

The day after Bush was re-elected president, there were 191,000 hits on Canada's immigration website, six times its average traffic, most of it from the U.S.

Websites sprouted explaining the mechanics of the Canadian immigration system, and Canadian women, tongues in cheek, offered to marry anti-war Americans.

But the increase is symbolic, said Jack Jedwab, the executive director of the association that analyzed the statistics. "Given that most of these immigrants are university-educated or better, you can assume they can find work in the U.S., so the move must be based on other reasons,'' Jedwab said.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada reported that 49.5 per cent of the Americans who migrated to Canada in 2006 had at least a bachelor's degree.

Jedwab said anecdotal information points to politics, health care, social issues, possibly even the strengthening Canadian dollar as lures northward, he said.

For 34-year-old labour organizer Tom Kertes, the move last April from Seattle, Wash., to Toronto was based on human rights.

"The words `human rights' are foreign words in the U.S.,'' Kertes said.

"They only apply to other countries.''

He moved to Toronto with his partner Ron Braun and the two plan to marry, something they could not do in Washington state.

He also cited the war in Iraq and the torture of Iraqi prisoners by Americans – and the failure of the Bush administration to clearly disavow such practice – as contributing factors to what is a major decision.

"Moving countries is not done lightly,'' he says.

He said he found the tolerance of Toronto welcoming and he thought Canadians were proud of their reputation for tolerance.

The 2006 figure marks the first time there have been more than 10,000 American migrants to Canada since 1981 and was the highest number since 1977.

Between 1967-75, a period marked by draft dodgers fleeing the Vietnam War, there were at least 19,000 Americans who fled north each year.

While the number of Americans moving north jumped, the number of Canadians moving to the United States declined to 23,913 in 2006 from 29,930 in 2005.

The net loss to Canada of 12,971 was the smallest since 2003 and slightly more than half of the loss suffered by Canada as recently as 2001 when 24,089 more Canadians moved south than Americans moved north.

The two largest categories of U.S. immigrants were the family class and economic class and Jedwab says he believes the numbers will continue to rise because of the family class of immigration.

"Once you reach a certain critical mass, the family reunification numbers tend to keep the numbers increasing,'' he said.

There was a large jump in the number of American refugees in 2006, but those were largely Haitians who received refugee status in the United States then moved to Canada.

Ontario – particularly the GTA region – was the destination of more than half of the U.S. migrants, far outpacing British Columbia and Quebec, the second and third most popular destinations.

Perhaps the most surprising aspect of the study is the attention it has received in the United States where it was first reported by abcnews.com.

It has become a hit on the blogosphere where many Americans have reacted with venom to those who have left the country and some 80,000 persons voted on whether they would move to Canada within hours of the question being posted on an aol.com site.

"If every American who didn't like George W. Bush left the country, there would be no one here but illegal immigrants,'' one blogger wrote.


http://www.thestar.com/News/article/243555



pure BS, overall more canadians leave for the USA and have been so for 30 years, dont belive me go to the uSA consulate on pender its filled with canucks trying to get into the USA
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post Jun 6 2008, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (Sefardic-Shinto-Male @ Jun 6 2008, 10:29 AM) *
U.S. immigration to Canada at 30-year high, but fewer Canadians moving to United States


Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON–It was a popular vow of apprehensive Democrats in 2004, a pledge made in the heat of battle to move to Canada if George W. Bush was re-elected.

Turns out, some of them did.

An analysis of immigration statistics done by the Montreal-based Association for Canadian Studies showed the number of Americans who moved to Canada in 2006 hit a 30-year high, almost double the number who moved north in 2000 when Bush was elected for a first term as U.S. president.

The analysis also showed the southward brain drain is being narrowed somewhat, and most of the American migrants are highly educated people who may be moving to Canada for quality of life and social reasons.

The numbers were not huge – 10,942 Americans moved to Canada last year, far smaller than the influx predicted when bogus maps of the United States of Canada began hitting the Internet in the waning days of the 2004 campaign.

The day after Bush was re-elected president, there were 191,000 hits on Canada's immigration website, six times its average traffic, most of it from the U.S.

Websites sprouted explaining the mechanics of the Canadian immigration system, and Canadian women, tongues in cheek, offered to marry anti-war Americans.

But the increase is symbolic, said Jack Jedwab, the executive director of the association that analyzed the statistics. "Given that most of these immigrants are university-educated or better, you can assume they can find work in the U.S., so the move must be based on other reasons,'' Jedwab said.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada reported that 49.5 per cent of the Americans who migrated to Canada in 2006 had at least a bachelor's degree.

Jedwab said anecdotal information points to politics, health care, social issues, possibly even the strengthening Canadian dollar as lures northward, he said.

For 34-year-old labour organizer Tom Kertes, the move last April from Seattle, Wash., to Toronto was based on human rights.

"The words `human rights' are foreign words in the U.S.,'' Kertes said.

"They only apply to other countries.''

He moved to Toronto with his partner Ron Braun and the two plan to marry, something they could not do in Washington state.

He also cited the war in Iraq and the torture of Iraqi prisoners by Americans – and the failure of the Bush administration to clearly disavow such practice – as contributing factors to what is a major decision.

"Moving countries is not done lightly,'' he says.

He said he found the tolerance of Toronto welcoming and he thought Canadians were proud of their reputation for tolerance.

The 2006 figure marks the first time there have been more than 10,000 American migrants to Canada since 1981 and was the highest number since 1977.

Between 1967-75, a period marked by draft dodgers fleeing the Vietnam War, there were at least 19,000 Americans who fled north each year.

While the number of Americans moving north jumped, the number of Canadians moving to the United States declined to 23,913 in 2006 from 29,930 in 2005.

The net loss to Canada of 12,971 was the smallest since 2003 and slightly more than half of the loss suffered by Canada as recently as 2001 when 24,089 more Canadians moved south than Americans moved north.

The two largest categories of U.S. immigrants were the family class and economic class and Jedwab says he believes the numbers will continue to rise because of the family class of immigration.

"Once you reach a certain critical mass, the family reunification numbers tend to keep the numbers increasing,'' he said.

There was a large jump in the number of American refugees in 2006, but those were largely Haitians who received refugee status in the United States then moved to Canada.

Ontario – particularly the GTA region – was the destination of more than half of the U.S. migrants, far outpacing British Columbia and Quebec, the second and third most popular destinations.

Perhaps the most surprising aspect of the study is the attention it has received in the United States where it was first reported by abcnews.com.

It has become a hit on the blogosphere where many Americans have reacted with venom to those who have left the country and some 80,000 persons voted on whether they would move to Canada within hours of the question being posted on an aol.com site.

"If every American who didn't like George W. Bush left the country, there would be no one here but illegal immigrants,'' one blogger wrote.


http://www.thestar.com/News/article/243555



being a dual citzen , that is total lies and propganda . I wouldnt be surprised if the whole article was made up to keep the average person in check, and in the dark
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post Jun 6 2008, 02:26 PM
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being a dual citzen , that is total lies and propganda . I wouldnt be surprised if the whole article was made up to keep the average person in check, and in the dark



That is what what Canada is all about.
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post Jun 6 2008, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Sefardic-Shinto-Male @ Jun 6 2008, 10:19 AM) *
we beat your asses and burn down the white house back in 1812



Don't you guys ever get tired of repeatedly taking credit for another nation's work for something that happened 196 years ago??

You should say something new for a change like "Canada akbar".
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post Jun 6 2008, 02:33 PM
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just download a movie and stop whining
http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Meet-the-Spart...d6b00aca2391350
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post Jun 6 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (the King @ Jun 6 2008, 09:34 AM) *
hey, if you can't turn your H1 visa to US Green Card, don't turn to Canada.
we don't need losers, we don't need cheaters either.


Learn to use Canada as Canada uses it's immigrants.

Got my landed visa for Canada,applied for a U.S. tourist (despite a promise to the U.S. consul not to apply for an H-1B)

Applied (and grudgingly given) for an H-1B and left Canada after only 14 months of 'fruitless' job searches for my profession in Vancouver.
Now after 5 years of working for my new masters (Americans) I have my green card.

Canada served my purpose as a "backdoor" to the U.S.

BITE ME!
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Canada eh?
post Jun 6 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (Sefardic-Shinto-Male @ Jun 6 2008, 10:19 AM) *
we beat your asses and burn down the white house back in 1812



Learn to comprehend those books you read. Don't twist the facts.

The British did 90% of the fighting against the U.S. in 1812, And The Brits were the one who burned down the white house. You canucks only had a token force of a few hundred militia.
NO CANADIANS took part in that action.

And we kicked your asses out of New Orleans in 1814 , Ironically AFTER the peace treaty was signed between the U.S. and the U.K.

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post Jun 6 2008, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE (Sefardic-Shinto-Male @ Jun 6 2008, 01:19 PM) *
we beat your asses and burn down the white house back in 1812



If you were there in 1812 you are very old.

Do you also take credit for everything Canada has done, or just what happened to boost your ego?

What has your country done that you had something to do with?
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post Jun 6 2008, 11:49 PM
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I don't know any Americans who are trying to move to Canada.

Digg.com: 91% Of Americans Surveyed Think Canada Would Be Better ...
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post Jun 7 2008, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Bastard in a basket @ Jun 6 2008, 09:51 AM) *
Canada is America's bitch.

canada's not america's bitch!!! canada's america's little sister, ok?
thank you!

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post Jun 7 2008, 12:41 PM
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This link starts with...
[b]Warning: The Content in this Article May be Inaccurate[/b]
Readers have reported that this story contains information that may not be accurate.

This makes it safe to say, "5 out of 4 people have a problem with statistics."
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post Jun 7 2008, 12:48 PM
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Canada is bigger and on top. USA must be Canada's bitch.
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post Jun 7 2008, 01:22 PM
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Canada is bigger and on top. USA must be Canada's bitch.


Actually, Canada (being bigger) is America's hat. A perfect shield.
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post Jun 7 2008, 02:25 PM
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Actually, Canada (being bigger) is America's hat. A perfect shield.


USA is shaped like a giant toilet. Is it for pooping into (by whoever is on top)?
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post Jun 7 2008, 02:32 PM
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USA is shaped like a giant toilet. Is it for pooping into (by whoever is on top)?


more like a giant funnel, where ALL of Canada's resources are draining into.
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the King
post Jun 16 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (Canada eh? @ Jun 6 2008, 03:37 PM) *
Learn to use Canada as Canada uses it's immigrants.

Got my landed visa for Canada,applied for a U.S. tourist (despite a promise to the U.S. consul not to apply for an H-1B)

Applied (and grudgingly given) for an H-1B and left Canada after only 14 months of 'fruitless' job searches for my profession in Vancouver.
Now after 5 years of working for my new masters (Americans) I have my green card.

Canada served my purpose as a "backdoor" to the U.S.

BITE ME!


F U C K you!
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