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I Quit.
post Sep 5 2008, 08:12 PM
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Jury has come back with its recommendations at Tait inquest
New Westminster/CKNW(AM980)

9/5/2008

The coroner's jury investigating the police shooting death of 16-year old Kyle Tait has just come back with its recommendations.

The jury has ruled his death three years ago as a homicide.

The two women and three men spent almost five hours deliberating, only taking a break for lunch and to ask presiding coroner Lianna Wright for a definition of homicide.

They returned shortly before four p-m with eight recommendations, including installation of video cameras in all police patrol vehicles, mandatory sight and hearing tests for officers every year, mandatory stress and anger management workshops and the immediate re-assignment or suspension of any officer involved in a lethal force shooting or causing bodily harm.

Tait's mother broke down in tears when she heard the verdict.

Coroner's jury recommendations are not binding.



Now let's see some appropriate charges and sentences laid. What a disgrace Todd Sweet is.

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slang
post Sep 5 2008, 08:31 PM
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Of course it is a homicide you idiot. What else could it be?

Homicide

NOUN:
  1. The killing of one person by another.
  2. A person who kills another person.
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I Quit.
post Sep 5 2008, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (slang @ Sep 5 2008, 08:31 PM) *
Of course it is a homicide you idiot. What else could it be?

Homicide

NOUN:
  1. The killing of one person by another.
  2. A person who kills another person.



Oh no, he claims he was acting in the publics best interest when he killed that boy. Same result, different premise.
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post Sep 5 2008, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (Ban Pellegrino. @ Sep 5 2008, 08:36 PM) *
Oh no, he claims he was acting in the publics best interest when he killed that boy. Same result, different premise.



Oh I see this guy as a courageous hero ridding the world of filthy garbage.
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post Sep 6 2008, 07:52 PM
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rofl.. you people gotta be kidding me.. He's sitting in a stolen vehicle, with not attempt to get out or stop the car. He's an accessory to the crime.. Either way he was going to be in detention or jail.

Why blame the policeman for something that he had no control over of?, the driver was ramming the police car and he had to defend himself.
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Wires
post Sep 6 2008, 07:55 PM
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So that explains why the police never shot the guy who beheaded that yound lad and ate him on the greyhound.
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post Sep 6 2008, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 6 2008, 07:52 PM) *
rofl.. you people gotta be kidding me.. He's sitting in a stolen vehicle, with not attempt to get out or stop the car. He's an accessory to the crime.. Either way he was going to be in detention or jail.

Why blame the policeman for something that he had no control over of?, the driver was ramming the police car and he had to defend himself.


Todd sweet has a long history of assaulting and using too much force on "offenders." Perhaps this one was guilty, but he shouldn't have been wearing a badge by that point.
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post Sep 6 2008, 07:59 PM
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That does not make sense...fail??

and ya he should went bye bye.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:00 PM
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true.. but then again i dont really care about his past.. just what's going on right now..
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Goat Boy©
post Sep 6 2008, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 6 2008, 08:00 PM) *
true.. but then again i dont really care about his past.. just what's going on right now..


If you're neighbor is a serial killer with 5 victims to date, does it not matter because he is a nice guy "right now."
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:06 PM
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That's a different situation, good try..

I think i would know if he was a serial killer
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 6 2008, 08:06 PM) *
That's a different situation, good try..

I think i would know if he was a serial killer


why should a person with a history of assaulting innocents be allowed anywhere near a badge?
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 6 2008, 08:00 PM) *
true.. but then again i dont really care about his past.. just what's going on right now..


Should he have a badge?
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:17 PM
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An officer is justified in discharging his firearm when a vehicle is attempting to manouver in such a way that could harm the officer. I wasn't there, but if the driver of the stolen vehicle was in fact attempting to get away in a manner that could have possibly harmed the officer or someone else, then yes, they are justified in discharging their firearm.

The problem here is that the passenger was shot and killed. It was a mistake that shouldn't have happened, but when things like this happen in a split second, it's not always like the movies where an officer can shoot a gun out of someone's hand at 50 yards each and every time with perfect accuracy...
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:19 PM
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anyways... back on topic.. read from the statement of his partner

http://news.aol.ca/article/bc-tait-inquest...timoney/327759/

"I thought I was watching Todd Sweet die," she said, adding Sweet looked scared as he drew his weapon. "

Let's put yourself in Sweet position.. A SUV coming in your direction at high speed, your gun is drawn, and you yell out to to them to stop and they dont.. what will you do?..you cant taser them.. you cant ram them back.. and they're comin closer to you..
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:20 PM
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The passenger has as much fault as anyone else in the situation, he didnt do anything.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 6 2008, 08:17 PM) *
An officer is justified in discharging his firearm when a vehicle is attempting to manouver in such a way that could harm the officer. I wasn't there, but if the driver of the stolen vehicle was in fact attempting to get away in a manner that could have possibly harmed the officer or someone else, then yes, they are justified in discharging their firearm.

The problem here is that the passenger was shot and killed. It was a mistake that shouldn't have happened, but when things like this happen in a split second, it's not always like the movies where an officer can shoot a gun out of someone's hand at 50 yards each and every time with perfect accuracy...


I agree, he was likely justified in this particular incident. The fact that one cop out of the thousands in the lower mainland has such notoriety in the news says something about his character though. He has been suspended at least once and under investigation several times.

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Officers under investigation for excessive use of force should be reassigned or suspended, the inquest jury into the death of Kyle Tait recommended Friday.

If such a measure had been in place, New Westminster Police Const. Todd Sweet would not have been on the street on the night of Aug. 23, 2005, when he shot and killed 16-year-old Tait.





http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/we...0b-7184b9fcd3c8


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post Sep 6 2008, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE (Goat Boy© @ Sep 6 2008, 08:10 PM) *
why should a person with a history of assaulting innocents be allowed anywhere near a badge?


To take care of the garbage of course!
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:31 PM
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The person who got killed could have prevented it. He CHOSE to get in a stolen vehicle. Was he retarded and didn't know it was wrong? The only person to blame is the suicidal idiot who forced the police to react the way they did.


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post Sep 6 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Wires @ Sep 6 2008, 08:55 PM) *
So that explains why the police never shot the guy who beheaded that yound lad and ate him on the greyhound.

The police can only discharge their firearms if someone's life is in danger of grievous bodily harm or death.

The victim in this case was already deceased when the officers arrived, so they would not be justified in unloading their clip into the perp. Unless, of course, the perp ran at them with his knife, which he didn't...
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Geniousse
post Sep 6 2008, 08:34 PM
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I don't have a problem with the police shooting at stolen vehicles provided they are using weapons that will disable the vehicle. RPGs are the way to go. Bullets might work on occasion but often will result in the driver of the stolen vehicle driving at an extremely high rate of speed putting the general public at risk.

I would be in favour of the police being allowed to adopt explosive force and destroy stolen vehicles. Say yes to the use of RPGs.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:34 PM
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I wonder how many tears would be shed by this kids mother if that stolen car killed an innocent person? I would bet none.



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post Sep 6 2008, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 6 2008, 08:33 PM) *
The police can only discharge their firearms if someone's life is in danger of grievous bodily harm or death.

The victim in this case was already deceased when the officers arrived, so they would not be justified in unloading their clip into the perp. Unless, of course, the perp ran at them with his knife, which he didn't...


Yeah but since when does anybody in Canada care about the law anymore. The law is whatever your religion/special interest group/crime family dictates what you want it to be.

The polish fellow at the AP certainly was not posing a threat.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Geniousse @ Sep 6 2008, 08:34 PM) *
I don't have a problem with the police shooting at stolen vehicles provided they are using weapons that will disable the vehicle. RPGs are the way to go. Bullets might work on occasion but often will result in the driver of the stolen vehicle driving at an extremely high rate of speed putting the general public at risk.

I would be in favour of the police being allowed to adopt explosive force and destroy stolen vehicles. Say yes to the use of RPGs.


I prefer spike chains, proven most effective.
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Geniousse
post Sep 6 2008, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (Goat Boy© @ Sep 6 2008, 08:35 PM) *
I prefer spike chains, proven most effective.


They don't stop the vehicle. They can keep going without rubber. RPGs into the vehicle are very effective at stopping them.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE (Goat Boy© @ Sep 6 2008, 09:34 PM) *
The polish fellow at the AP certainly was not posing a threat.

And that's why they didn't shoot him. I think some cops may be a little too 'tazer happy' at times though, but it is generally supposed to be a non-lethal way to subdue someone. Unfortunately in this case things didn't turn out quite as planned either...
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 6 2008, 08:39 PM) *
And that's why they didn't shoot him. I think some cops may be a little too 'tazer happy' at times though, but it is generally supposed to be a non-lethal way to subdue someone. Unfortunately in this case things didn't turn out quite as planned either...


There's a difference between not shooting/tazering and tazering three times and then compressing the chest cavity and not calling paramedics. I work there and know several of the people in AOC that were on call watching on the Cams. As far as I'm concerned those cops should be charged with murder.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (Geniousse @ Sep 6 2008, 08:38 PM) *
They don't stop the vehicle. They can keep going without rubber. RPGs into the vehicle are very effective at stopping them.


You would be surprised.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:42 PM
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yeah.. rpgs are effective.. but they also wipe out everyone else in the vehicle.
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post Sep 6 2008, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 6 2008, 08:39 PM) *
And that's why they didn't shoot him. I think some cops may be a little too 'tazer happy' at times though, but it is generally supposed to be a non-lethal way to subdue someone. Unfortunately in this case things didn't turn out quite as planned either...


I agree. It is supposed to be safer for the person being detained. I'm not sure why in a situation like in the airport a hog tie take down wasn't executed though. One on one the Tazer is the answer but for 4 on 1 they should use a hog tie.

I still would like to know why the Polish gentleman never thought of following the thousands of other people that ALL were leaving out the same door. It is really weird.
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