Vancouver Forum: Michael Chang is TAIWANESE Not CHINESE

The question is, have you taken that oath yourself jna ?

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Chris Patton, on 05 November 2009 - 08:44 PM, said:

Did you check the calendar? It's 2009 not 1809, whoever took the oath are long dead you fing idiot.

Chris Patton, on 05 November 2009 - 08:44 PM, said:

I am going to take the oath: zero tolerance to ignorant undereducated racist farmers from some backward village middle of nowhere..

This post has been edited by JNA: 05 November 2009 - 07:51 PM

Are you crazy? They are all Chineses, China is a peaceful country. Are you really that stupid, do you see Chinese men wearing pigtails? You poor backward farmer.
Whatever make you feel better Doc Watson Taiwan was and has been a province that's why they sent ZCG over to kick the dutch ass off their land, and he did. I don't hate Chinese history, I think you do, in fact you want to twist the real fact based on whatever you could find on the internet, by all means.. history can't be changed because you like so.

IS DocWatson now posting as Chris Patton?

Marion Morrison, on 05 November 2009 - 09:23 PM, said:

My bad responding to his insanity, it took 3 sec for me to realize it was him.. still

This post has been edited by JNA: 05 November 2009 - 08:36 PM

Chris Patton, on 05 November 2009 - 07:26 PM, said:

Oops, i made a mistake.It's been corrected. Tibet was never ruled by han chinese before Mao's invasion. The Taiwanese treat foreigners very well and foreigners usually leave Taiwan with a high opinion of them.This was also my experience. Also when they come to Canada they don't see Canadians as the enemy of them taking over the country.

Tibet was part of China long before Mao was born. and chinese emperors where invovled in the choosing of new dalai lamas since the yuan dynasty

JNA, on 05 November 2009 - 07:49 PM, said:

yo Einstein, ALL triads take this oath not to mention many possibly most chinese politions ],many chinese police,top chinese business people etc.. If you are chinese then you already know this and are merely playing dumb [ which I doubt playing dumb is difficult for you ] Your name calling also is merely reflecting your incompetence.

Taiwan was also Japanese, also Dutch,also Portugeuse.Does this mean that Taiwan is actually theirs ? In Canada we gave Quebec a referendum. Now if you are actually a Canadian then how come you don't feel that Taiwan deserves a referendum ? Look at Nunavat,maybe China should be like Canada and do the same thing with Tibet ?

Chris Patton, on 06 November 2009 - 06:09 PM, said:

yo Crazy, where did you get that information, many Chineses alive and well took the oath against 'qing' dynasty? Do you know what you are talking about?

Taiwan was occupied by the Japaneses and Portugesuse, like how europe was occupied by the Nazi, are you saying it should be and still is Nazi's?

I think China has done a much better job comes to Tibet problem comparing to what Canada gov does to the Native Indians, 99% homeless person I saw here were the Natvie indians, maybe not so much in Vancouver, where all the druggies and homeless were mostly white.

1 Europeans took the whole land over for themselves, Natives live in a camp slowing die off
VS

Chinese gov dumped billions dollar to develop Tibet, building schools for the children and setting tourist industry, majority of the population concentrate on the east side of the country, not so many live there percentage wise - btw do you even know where Tibet is on the map? Hello?

2 Tibet has been a province of China 20 times longer than years of 'Canada' ever exists, How old is Canada, like 150 years? Actually Canada wasn't even an independent country for the most part of these years, how did Canada/ Canada gov treat the Native during this 150 x 365 days?

Europeans invade NorthAmerica

VS

Tibetan rulers were constantly sending out army harassing the boarder and to invade the central China, wars continued for hundreds of years and they ended up being part of the Chinese empire after they failed the invasion again and again, and that stayed that way for centuries.

Chineses didn't send out people to skin Tibetans alive like Europeans did, they didn't just do that to the tibetans take over the land, or drain their food source buffaloes.

3 Once upon the time The british occupied Tibet too, are the brits going to claim it their land too? THey better f - o

;) TGB

Marion Morrison, on 05 November 2009 - 08:23 PM, said:

Bingo we have winner...

its time for a family intervention I believe.

TAIWANMAN-san, on 19 October 2009 - 11:45 PM, said:

thanks

JNA, on 06 November 2009 - 11:21 PM, said:

Ahem , it is a VERY safe bet that you are just as aware as I am that ALL triads take this oath as well as many [ if not all ] top chinese politicians,business people etc... I am not going to debate something that you already know is true. You are merely trying to cast doubt in the minds of any readers.White people sent people out to skin native CANADIANS ALIVE ? HAHAHA Just where did you get this fact from hahah ! Your ignorance is quite amusing.A number of things that white people did were disgraces. However we do give natives free education [ including university ] ,free medical,they don't have to pay taxes...and we gave them a gigantic province Nunavat etc...

Tibet was ONLY a part of China when China was ruled by Mongolians [ the yuan dynasty ] and when they were ruled be the manchurians [ ching dynasty ] as they were all nomadic peoples in both cases Tibettans had far higher status than the han chinese.

Don't you just hate it when someone knows chinese history better than you. it's probably too late for you to try to put doubts in my mind and especially other readers minds by questioning the the things I know as I have already researched these topics sufficiently.
Oh ya...i had heard of Zheng Cheng whatever his name was but only remembered him as Coxinga

Chris Patton, on 07 November 2009 - 09:35 PM, said:

lol you just slapped your own face, you know shit about Chinese history Doc W

Who care who is Chang who is who ...

Obama will make an announcement once again on behalf of the US to acknowledge that Taiwan = part of China, Tibet = part of China.
as a matter of fact China only cares of who and who and who the US said. as to France, germany, cananda, China just give slanting
eye looking only. do canadian understanding who and who are you China has no interests to know,

Obama is visiting China, he will announce together with Chinses president Hu:
The US and China both will live only if they rely on each other.
This time nothing to do with Doc who......very dispointed yeah and ahem?

JNA, on 05 November 2009 - 07:43 PM, said:

I was typing quickly and absent mindedly wrote Taiwan instead of Tibet was never ruled by han Chinese. I remembered Zheng Cheng Gong from the name Coxinga. Is Coxinga fujianese pinyin for his name ? And Coxinga the pirate [ so therefor a murderer and a robber and not surprisingly one of your heroes ] defeated the Dutch near the end of the Ming Dynasty which you are disputing for some reason with a fact that backs me up.So JNA....here is an obviously very valid question for you ....is your shoe size and IQ interchangeable ?

Sefardic-Shinto-Male, on 06 November 2009 - 05:02 PM, said:

Yo shito male,in the Yuan dynasty CHina and Tibet were merely part of the Mongol empire and likewise the Qing Dynasty China and Tibet were part of the Manchurian empires.Because they both were very similar culturally and both the Mongols and Manchurians had great respect for Tibettan buddism the Tibettans had a status almost as high as the Manchurians and Mongolians themselves. But hey, if hey...just imagine how wonderful it will be if Chinese Canadians who have taken the "faan ching fuk ming" oath succeed.Then you can erase historical facts like this from all history books.Maybe they then can kill the ching , extirminate the CHing and destroy the Ching that allowed them to enter Canada in the first place in accordance with the rest of their oath.On the VERY SLIM chance that you don't know about this oath already....ask your fellow chinese friends about it.

Chris Patton, on 09 November 2009 - 07:19 PM, said:

Yo you piece of lying shit, ZhengChengGong, was a hero, was an official sent over by the Chinese empire, the central gov to fight the dutch colonists, a rather famous General for his time, NOT your racist delusional mind fictioned pirate you piece of sub human garbage just read some worthless thing you can find on the internet and make up whatever s*** you can on a forum?Or YOu can't really read at all? His dad was a pirate and later assigned to work for the gov, doesn't mean his son ZCG was a pirate you dumbass!

This post has been edited by JNA: 09 November 2009 - 08:06 PM

Chris Patton, on 09 November 2009 - 07:34 PM, said:

What is Fuk? I speak Chinese, your copied and pasted gebberish doesn't work. Doc Watson/TGB.


"kill the ching , extirminate the CHing and destroy the Ching that allowed them to enter Canada in the first place in accordance with the rest of their oath."

The Chinese Canadians are living in the present, 2009, and they didn't take any 'oath'

Holy crap, what are you smoking?

The 'Ching' Dynasty ended 100 years ago, how can someone live in the presence or2009 or future, be able to/ want to ' kill the ching' and ' destory the ching that ALLOW THEM TO ENTER CANADA ' ? WT? "Ching" allowed exactly who Enter Canada??

You are insane.

This post has been edited by JNA: 09 November 2009 - 08:08 PM

Chris Patton, on 07 November 2009 - 09:35 PM, said:

Where did you read that, wiki? ha! Sad Sad ignorant racist.

Saying Tibettans had far higher status than the han Chinese, the social status maybe, when they were ruled by the mongolians, like when nazis ruled the Europe they had higher status too eh? Tibetans ways of life were backward, they didn't even had established high civilization because they had such little resource of food, and everything, that's how they developed their ambition to conquer the more civilized richer country aka the Chinese empire, they failed and failed so many times and just ended up being the colony country, least the Han didn't skin mongolians head for revenge VS the Europeans did to the Native Indians for their land.

When the han were ruled by Yuan, the rulers at the time were pretty open-minded, they were anti racism and racial discrimination [ sounds better here than early white colonists?] and encouraged yan people to wear hans clothes and learn their language, Chinese language, as their culture were so much advanced than their own, they had mix of han and yan people work for the gov.


ZhengChengGong will always be remembered as a hero, a hero your little country can never produce, guess why, you suck and you are stupid, if you think using stupid insulting racist spelled name like ' Coxinga ' would erase or belittle him what he is in history, think again. People who do know him will remember him and respect him, the rest, don't matter.
Britain was a shithole and probably will always be for the crime they commited over the centuries, that's how the rest of the your little world would remember your country, be ashamed, very ashamed, DocW/TGB. Your paranoid is going out of hand.


Go google some more on wiki - like it would get you anywhere, you know less history than my little finger dumbass!

This post has been edited by JNA: 09 November 2009 - 08:45 PM

JNA, on 09 November 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:

Coxinga was a pirate and this is too well documented for anybody other than a prc national to deny.Of course he did defeat a white army which the chinese are so extatic about.Coxinga and Vince Li are true Chinese heroes.Being proud of chinese killing white people isn't racism.It's merely another reason why Canada should let more chinese in to Canada.

JNA, on 09 November 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:

running scared I see

JNA, on 09 November 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:

lets tell the whole of DV what your oath ["faan ching fuk ming"] is eh...JNA
Better that it comes from you though..he he

Chris Patton, on 12 November 2009 - 03:28 PM, said:

interesting thought wouldn't you say, JNA

Oh right Chris Patton appears and then Doc comes slobbering in...hopin and a preyin JNA migh be around so he can jibber on in the last of the C threads...and this one is about a Tennis player...fckin clown

I wanted to take his Christian virginity - but then he got married.

sigh

JNA, on 09 November 2009 - 08:39 PM, said:

Wow ! JNA, [ maybe PMS would have been a more appropriate name ] you are a real Einstein ! Tibettans didn't have a high degree of civilisation ? Have you ever actually read anything written by Tibettans ? OF COURSE NOT ! You only read what you are sopposed to believe. I recently read "the Tibettan Book Of Living and Dying. It's very interesting. What a unique culture.Hhmmm after reading this book I find it amusing that you compare Tibettans with the nazis. "The Tibettans way of life was backwards " This is a very interesting comment as if Chinese at this time were in any way more advanced.For example,slavery has always existed in China and was only illegal during Chaing Kai Sheks rule where it went on openly.[ The Rough Guide To China 1996 edition ]

"Britain was a shithole and probably will always be" This is another interesting comment. hmmm of course JMS isn't a racist and one would have to be a racist for letting this even cross ones mind !

You know what JMS ,you're really smart,I am convinced now,Coxinga and Vince Li are true heroes of the Chinese people who want to come to Canada.Have you ever been in this shithole of a little country Canada ? You've also convinced me a day after rememberance day that none of our veterans were heroes who fought the nazis and the Japanese.You're really convincing

Docwaton/Chris Patton,

Do you have reading comprehension problem? Let me help you
I never 'compare' Tibetans with the Nazis...I used an example, Nazi and the mogolians had one thing in common that they were the winners, the conquerers, the rulers always have higher social status, does it mean their own culture and civilizations were just as higher ? Not always, take a look at Britain in middle age, it was a piece of shitland with no money no natural resource so they had to go out their way and invaded other richer countries, weren't they backward barbaric comparing to the countries they conquered?

Oh NO!.. simply stating the truth of history would make me a racist! of course, Brits were so civilized and never did anything terrible.. and they all have good teeth.. LOL

"the Tibettan Book Of Living and Dying. It's very interesting."

Oh yeah? What was it about? Btw it should be spelled "Tibetan" not "Tibettan" you under-educated pig, you wanna debate with me based on what, something you read on the WIKI? hahaha

Tibetans never conquered China, for you, Tibetans and Mongolians are the same thing right racist dipshit? you are so 'smart', you watched hollywood movies and must know so much about China.


"I am convinced now,Coxinga and Vince Li are true heroes of the Chinese people who want to come to Canada."

Coxinga ? Again his name is ZhengChengGong, I tried but you are too stupid to learn anything..

ZhengChengGong died a few centuries ago, hero or not, it doesn't impact Chinese Canadians living here, I understand why you try so damn hard to pick on them,

Don't You Just Hate Awesome Chineses and awesome China and everything related to them because they are all so much better than you and your little Britain ? Doc W? I know ! You feel so threatened! China is on the Rise, a threat! How does feel like living on a wheelchair on gov welfare watching Chineses driving BMW and Benz in Vancouver? Must suck to be you.

OKay , game over. I am convinced that you are a mental patient. Docwaton/Chris Patton.

This post has been edited by JNA: 12 November 2009 - 08:32 PM

JNA, on 12 November 2009 - 08:16 PM, said:

You say The Tibetan Book of Living And Dying is very interesting. You have never read this book. What province in China are you in Have you ever even been to Canada ? Holy small cockery Batman,yes many chinese drive nice cars and are rich. It's an interesting fact that 80% of the heroin that gets smuggled into Canada is smuggled in by the chinese.It's another interesting fact that CSIS has found that china's State Security Bureau doesn't expect to even have to pay Chinese Canadians to spy for them against Canada and CAnadians,they will do it for free.Well this is what we get for allowing so many people into Canada who think of Canada and CAnadians the way you do.ONE BILLION $ A MONTH ! If China is so great then why did you come to this "shity little country " ?

Britain made places work. Canada,The US ,Hong Kong,Australia,Gibralter etc... China was far worse to Tibet than the Japanese were to the countries that it conquered.The decimation of 1/3 to 1/6 of the population, the destruction of it's culture etc.. was considered a genocide by the Hague.At least if Britain had taken Tibet it would have made the country work and made the Tibetans standard of living far better.Chinese would be wanting to immigrate to Tibet if Britain had colonised Tibet.

Hey racist nutbar Chris Pattonofshit aka Dickhead Watson, what does this nutbar racist rant have anything to do with the Michael Chang, the tennis player who was born in the U.S.

Taiwan is not part of China. Taiwan is independent!

yellowdog, on 13 November 2009 - 11:19 PM, said:

Precisely Yellowdog agreed

JNA, on 12 November 2009 - 08:16 PM, said:

Here's another prime example of why the Taiwanese lady who wrote "The Asian Mind Game" [for people going to do business in China] wrote "Chinese men are so racist foreigners can't even comprehend it" I know she know's what she is talking about. Imagaine if some white guy said " you just hate AWSOME white people and AWSOME britain" I think even the klan would kick him out for being too much of an idiot.It must suck being me ? It must suck being you with your eeny weeny problem !

=/ dude that's not cool. we call you brothers man.