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#1 Chris Patton

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 07:20 PM

For those looking for a fun read while learning the history of Hong Kong I suggest reading The Tartan Dragon by John Mclean. John Mclean has a history degree and a law degree and has written quite a number of books.This is a historical novel in which he did 3 years of research for.

One former law school classmate was up on corruption charges and when he beat the charges the press was waiting outside to interview him. All he would say into each microphone that was shoves in his face was " I have been reading this book [ holding up The Tartan Dragon ] ,it's a great book, I thoroughly recommend it " John Mclean researched the many characters personalities that stood out during the hong Kong's history 1841 to 1997 .It takes you from the beginnings when the first British settled in Hong Kong,it takes you through the Japanese invasion etc.. and it's a fun read. I too thoroughly recommend it.

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 08:27 PM

I just read a review of the book. Supposedly a good read for the history buff.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:38 PM

Pansy Liu, on 09 January 2010 - 08:27 PM, said:

I just read a review of the book. Supposedly a good read for the history buff.

I am sold and have just ordered this book.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 12:57 PM

Gary Oak, on 11 January 2010 - 12:38 PM, said:

I am sold and have just ordered this book.

Good. I hope you bought the used book for $1. Maybe you can be the first to review this very unpopular book on Amazon.com. It sure gets a LOW rating on Amazon as opposed to what liar Chris Pattonofcrap stating that it was a top ten book.
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Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:36 PM

dwirn, on 11 January 2010 - 12:57 PM, said:

yep I'll give it a read too. Thanks for that post BTW. For a dollar eh...Eclectic , not everyones read. History nerds perhaps/I'll give it a shot.

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#6 Chris Patton

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:34 PM

DocWatson, on 11 January 2010 - 01:36 PM, said:

yep I'll give it a read too. Thanks for that post BTW. For a dollar eh...Eclectic , not everyones read. History nerds perhaps/I'll give it a shot.

I guarantee you will love it. I'll bet you 100$ you will thoroughly enjoy reading this historical novel. Do you want to take this bet Doc ?

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 09:38 AM

I'll take this bet

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 10:11 AM

Gary Oak, on 14 January 2010 - 09:38 AM, said:

I'll take this bet

that would double you earnings for the day...and you're not allowed to come home till you've made a hundred bucks, right? You're "Daddy" will be real happy

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 11:06 AM

Eurito, on 14 January 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

that would double you earnings for the day...and you're not allowed to come home till you've made a hundred bucks, right? You're "Daddy" will be real happy

Actually I probably would lose the bet. Canadians leave home in their late teens and one is still at home after about age 20 they are usually considered strange. Do you still live with your parents Eurito ?

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 04:09 PM

Gary Oak, on 14 January 2010 - 09:38 AM, said:

I'll take this bet

OK ,...YOU'RE ON ! :thumbsup:

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 04:27 PM

dwirn, on 11 January 2010 - 12:57 PM, said:

Good. I hope you bought the used book for $1.

Thanks for letting us know. I`ll definitely purchase a used one. To think I was going to pay 7 pounds(about 15$) for a paperback copy. It`s out of the library where I live, so I`ll have to buy one.

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Pansy Liu, on 09 January 2010 - 08:27 PM, said:

I just read a review of the book. Supposedly a good read for the history buff.

I didn't know that Hong Kong had such an interesting history. I soppose that nobody would have been interested in the Titanic if the [fiction ] movie never came out. I never actually knew hadly any of my own history until now. I can see now why this book was on the Hong Kong best sellers list.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:31 PM

Did anybody else get this book ? i am interested in hearing the reviews

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:35 PM

I'd be more impressed if the book wasn't self-published.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:37 PM

and just what exactly was it ever a top ten of?

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:39 PM

The Doc Watson's gang (Chris Patton, Patsy Liu and Gary Oak) are promoting a book by bumping this thread. This book is so unpopular that no one has left any review on Amazon.com, Barnes and Noble or Powell website. Of course Chris Patton like to like LIE like the master Doc Watson. This book was NEVER in the top ten of any book list.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:43 PM

It was on the Hong Kong top ten best sellers list. Yes this is nowhere near like being on the NY top ten best sellers list however it is a fun read that is packed with Hong Kong's history as the Author has a history degree as well as a law degree.He did three years research for this historical novel. I personally learned alot from this book. I came accross lots of info from this book in the non fiction Chinese history books that I read in the following years.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:45 PM

Steve Wilson, on 08 February 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

Oh look everybody ,little D'worm has chosen an Anglo name for himself. and this book was on the Hong Kong top ten best sellers list. Why don't you D'worm buy this book , get away from the computer for once in your dorky life and learn something.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:48 PM

Chris Patton: FAIL for lying.
Yeah right, a self published fictional book making the top ten list in Hong Kong. Chris Patton really knows how to LIE from the master LIAR Doc Watson.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:01 PM

Steve Wilson, on 08 February 2010 - 03:48 PM, said:

Chris Patton: FAIL for lying.
Yeah right, a self published fictional book making the top ten list in Hong Kong. Chris Patton really knows how to LIE from the master LIAR Doc Watson.

it is a self published book and it did make it on the Hong Kong best sellers list before handover. Why don't you lick up a copy yourself ? I am interested in hearing your review. There is alot of CHinese history ,Hong Kong history,Japanese HK invasion history original opium drug barons [ scoundrels ! ] history,the personalities researched.This book takes the reader through Hong Kong's history from 1840 to 1997. I thoroughly enjoyed this book and I believe that you will too.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:03 PM

Chris Patton: FAIL for his continuous LYING.
If you check out the biggest on-line bookseller in Hong Kong.
http://www.shopinhk.com
They don't even carry that book Tartan Dragon. Yeah right, that this book was a top seller in Hong Kong.
Again Chris Patton is showing his true colors of being a LIAR like the master LIAR, Doc Watson.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:09 PM

Chris Patton, on 08 February 2010 - 04:01 PM, said:

it is a self published book and it did make it on the Hong Kong best sellers list before handover.

"vanity" published books seldom end up on the best seller lists...so you said it, you prove it

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:10 PM

Chris Patton, on 08 February 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

Really? Which one? Can you provide a link to show us. Just what exactly is a Hong Kong top ten best sellers list? They must keep records the way the NY Times and other perstigious reviewers offer.

This is basically me saying I don't believe you.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:14 PM

he does have a lot in common with Doc W... like can't back it up, then throws a hissy fit, posting more crap that he can't back up

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:17 PM

Chris Patton, on 08 February 2010 - 04:01 PM, said:

Absolutely not. If a self-published novel ever made it to a top ten anything it would be snatched up by a publisher in a second.

The number of best selling self-published books are less than the fingers on my hand.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:35 PM

if he can rant and rave on a bold face lie about something like this...its hard to believe one word that exits his cake hole

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:42 PM

Eurito, on 08 February 2010 - 04:35 PM, said:

if he can rant and rave on a bold face lie about something like this...its hard to believe one word that exits his cake hole

Yep. I'm still waiting for him to show me the reviews such a book would receive if it ever made a top ten list!

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:44 PM

WOW ! You girls are really getting excited about a mere book review.If you are so furious about reading and learning [ which doesn't surprise me ] then don't read this book. You haven't even read it and only know what I have told you about it and you are on the attack.Read the book and then tell me your views.If you hav'nt read the book you really don't have a view at all. Have you guys ever gotten away from the computer and done anything interesting ? gone anywhere interesting ? learned anything interesting ? know anybody interesting ? After you read the book tell me what you think otherwise you really have nothing to tell me. I have read this book and enjoyed it

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:49 PM

Chris Patton, on 08 February 2010 - 04:44 PM, said:

I'll tell you what. I won't read this book for several reasons.

1. Self-publishing books are bad 99% of the time. They are unedited, contain false information, grammatical errors, and spelling mistakes. Why should I waste my time on something that isn't good enough to get picked up by a real publisher.

2. It doesn't sound very interesting.

3. The fact that you straight out lied about this book shows that it's not very good. And I trust your judgment about as much as I trust a three dollar bill.

4. This book is so unpopular it doesn't even have an amazon ranking on the ca website. The UK site has it marked in the 2 million rank. The US site is 6 million. This means that the book has likely sold one copy in the past two years.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:02 PM

ghost, on 08 February 2010 - 04:49 PM, said:

I enjoyed it and I am not lying that I liked it. I also am not a liar. If you don't want to read it then don't read it. I don't trust your judgement at all. I am sure that you aren't interested in Hong Kong history or chinese history. I am also sure that you are a royal bore.If you havn't read this book then really you don't have anything to say about it.The fact that you are making such a big negative deal about this book without even having read it really exposes how stupid you really are

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:08 PM

Chris Patton, on 08 February 2010 - 05:02 PM, said:

You don't lie? So you're going to show me the top ten list where this book was a best seller? Come on! I'm still waiting.

Unlike you, I know a lot about publishing. It's my field.

I'm making a negative about this book because of the lies you've told to try and get people to read it. There is a possibility that this book might be the one in a million that is actually a decent self pub. But I doubt it.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:11 PM

ghost, on 08 February 2010 - 05:08 PM, said:

Read it yourself then. Contact the Author John Mclean.He can tell you more than I can. You are a publisher ? I am very interested in publishing a book. Not a novel or anything to do with my experiences.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:14 PM

Chris Patton, on 08 February 2010 - 05:11 PM, said:

I'm not a publisher. I'm a writer. I work with publishers.

But if you want information on publishing a book, I'm more than willing to give you some advice. All things aside, I believe in helping others.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:20 PM

ghost, on 08 February 2010 - 05:14 PM, said:

Brilliant, ! Thanks alot. I have never written a book before however I am very capable of writing this book and do a quality job.It will however not have a wide readership at all but some will need it.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:24 PM

Chris Patton, on 08 February 2010 - 05:20 PM, said:

Not all books have wide readerships. That's what small presses are for. There's always the option to self-pub too. I know I criticize it but it's good for niche markets. Check out www.lulu.com If you ever decide to go that route, they are the only decent ones to use. They don't steal money from their authors.