Vancouver Forum: voting N.O.T.A - Vancouver Forum

:firuli: In my opinion this is a much needed topic,I mean who do we vote for??...a criminal with gang connections??..or a woman who seems to be afraid of the hot topics??..man what a choice eh??..something is wrong here in bc,I dont want to sound like some conspriacy theorist but it has become staringly obvious to me and many others that the political situation here is being manipulated from behind the scenes,by who we wonder??..gangsta,s??..good old boys??..unions??...the so called"bussiness elite"???...or is it all of them at the same time??..I do not use the word criminal lightly for gordo[note no caps for this guy],mr martini himself!,..these gang problems and the drug scene could not happen unless he and his so called "aides"..ahem...were not only aware but have to be involved..have to!!,..this bc rail deal,..basi and verk,..one of them,I am no longer sure which but I think it was basi, a few years back when this went down,...was dragged out of his mothers home onto the lawn and beaten with pipes...wassup with this??...pipes??...gee ya think there,s some kinda gang connection there??..ya think??this is where gordies at,..the guy has an IQ that is below room temp,..and seems to have severe psychopathic tendencies[ask dr hare re this]...wassup with that??...his so called F.I.P.P.guy loukadelis,..an important person to us normal bc,ers,..has a deal with Gordy,..its called "named requestor",..any fipp request that is ..ahem.."deemed" as contentious,...and no one checks they just take the word of their cronies,..is named to the liberals directly and then harrassed and abused by criminals out the yin yang,..named requestor,..yeah,..named to who??..for me it was every psycho in goverment employ and their gang "buddies"...this is our premier in action,..an accessory to attempted murder!!,..and thats just me,..I have become involved due to trying to get wcb to do their jobs,pay their bills,stop extorting the funds intended for the care of my severly injured bod and my children as well,..but the more we look the worse it gets,..human rights abuses are rampant here in b.latant c.orruption,..my advisor on this subject,Dr Curtiss Doebbler, agree,s,..and he should know,he,s the guy who defended hussien,and he was my guy before he ever met that cracko nutbar..like me he is a firm believer in THE RULE OF LAW!.so know this bc,ers,..when you vote for gordy,..you vote for criminals and their gangsta cronies,..I tried to get Carol to get on this and she just stuck her head in the sand,..its a fact ndp is a union sympathetic party,..has always been,...I have no problem with that,..as long as it is honest and adheres to the rule of law!!,...this does not seem to be the case,..at least not that I have seen,and I watch,yes we watch very closely!!,..my union is the IWA/STEELWORKERS,...and even though I am severly injured I still keep my union membership,..one would think they at least would attempt to get to the bottom of these crimes,..but no,..zip,zilch,nada!!,...and yes they have the goods,the facts,the skinny as it were,..soooo,...what are we to think here in b,astard c.orruption???...hmmmmm???...noooo,...I will be voting N.O.T.A....and I strongly suggest any bc,er with a brain does the same,perhaps then the criminals and their cronies will pay attention[not likely but hey??]...dont get me wrong...I love my country,..I like bc,..hell I live here too,..I just can not stand the thought of another 4 years of blatant corruption by gordy and his scammers and gangsta "buddies",..it makes all of this great land called CANADA look very,very bad!!,..anyone who agree,s on NOTA CAN LEAVE A MESSAGE HERE,trust me on this,.."they" ahem...are listening,..sooo,...how many votes for NOTA???,...lets hear it...and feel free to say exactly why too,..we are all entitled to our own opinions,..its in the constitution,..my opinion...well...we just heard them did we not??...ha ha,..yers from the corruption capitol of Canada!,"real" Rob Lawson[not the rg lawson gordy hired to have the rcmp shoot me in a ahem..."mistaken"..ahem..identity scam,..now thats dirty pool no??..R.

Voting NOTA or not voting at all is a vote. It is a vote that allows others to control who gets elected to office.

You don't like the candidates? then get involved at the grass roots level and help to promote candidates that you can support. Get your friends and relatives to work for good candidates.

You can make a difference, but you can't sit on your fat butt and complain about things. If you don't like things the way they are, get busy and help change them.

But that would take some effort on your part, right? Can't have that, can we?

The Old medic, on Apr 11 2009, 11:07 AM, said:

Old medic makes sense.

wrong,I have a skinny butt,and I am involved at the grass roots level,have been for many years,voting nota is not wasting your vote it is sending the message you dont care for the candidates and what the purport to stand for,..its not the same as voting with your feet,you go the polls,register your name,and make your statement,..as for making a diiferance,..been there,done that,got the t-shirt,..cheap shot fella,..

wrong,I have a skinny butt,and I am involved at the grass roots level,have been for many years,voting nota is not wasting your vote it is sending the message you dont care for the candidates and what the purport to stand for,..its not the same as voting with your feet,you go the polls,register your name,and make your statement,..as for making a diiferance,..been there,done that,got the t-shirt,..cheap shot fella,..

whats the problem here in Canada?with a few rare exceptions all our politico,s are ;pale faced,low iq,speakers of bafflgab and bullshit,..do they not know we can tell every time they lie??..obfuscate?..etc etc,..why does our political system keep throwing up loser after loser and not one person with honour or presence ever gets elected??..whats going on??...is it the yanks interfering to keep us down??[I dont think so],..or is the selection precess such a bs show that anyone with a brain bails as soon as they can??...I mean look at the Zalm??..that guyt was/is an idiot!..and clark??...besides being the gangsta,s best buddy and a psychopath,again...idiot!!,..now we have gordo,..another gangsta buddy.and another idiot!!..what the hell is this????,..something seems to be happening to them that after time in the political world here in bc,they lose most of the few grey cells they had to begin with and by the time they make premier they have nothing but empty space up there,a total void!,..did it all run out their ears er what??..Vaughn Palmer did a column about the convention center contracts,..in the contract language,..."possible unknowns"???..and his and my favourite "unknown unknowns"...yes thats for real,this is the language,..its just asking to be ripped off,..and gosh darn golly gee,..thats exactly what happened,..a billion doller over run...well,..thats a surprise,ha ha,....Gordy sets his "buddies" up for a big cash windfall and no one says a word???..what the hell is that??...and if he knows anything about construction other than helping his friends out,..I am a nuclear engineer!!,..same with ferries debacle,..fat jack munro bails with a nice cheque right in the nick of time and no his name is never mentioned connected with those scams,and scam they were,...no its corruption central here,and it has been going on for so long that no one even notices it,,,it reminds me of those 3 morons at the gomery enquiry,..who said ,.."what?what? thats the way we do bussiness",...geeez loise,what a way to run a province,...is this what we want for bc???...corruption out the yin yang??..."buddies" and relatives cashing in big time while the sick and injured get it up the ass??..old folks eating cat food while the criminals eat lobster and wear armani??...no wonder there is no money for medicine,..after wcb gets through extorting and injuring the people they are supposed to be helping and putting all the costs on the public purse,there is none left for the sick and injured,..and they dont give a shit as long as they get theirs first,..this has been going on for years and years andyears...wcb has a 1.3 billion $$$ in ..ahem.."excess" ahem funds,..a year later they are 265 million in the hole, 8 months later they have 165 million to the good,..then they are millions in the hole again,...thats some bookkeeper they have no??...and where did that cash all go??..after the wcb psychopaths took their slice???...into general revenue thats where,..and what did our man gordo do with this money??? did he help the docs and the injured??..no he used it to build speed skating rinks and ski jumps for a 2 week extravaganza for his rich "buddies" again,..not one cent was used for medicine!...NONE!!!,...check it out its all in the public domain,..no bloody wonder little kenny dies before getting his cancer treatment,old uncle jack after a lifetime of work,..waits years for a hip replacement in agony,..nurses work far more than they should because gordo stole and splurged with the money intended for them,same for the docs,..and the hospitals,..sure,once in a blue moon,just before an election,,they give a pittance back,...but know this,..they have stolen the rest,..the "good old boy" network is alive and thriving here in b.astard c.riminal...corruption is rampant!!,..so if you vote for these criminals,dont come whining at me/us,...we told you so,..again and again,...too damn many sheep here bleating and bitching and then they vote for the same old criminals,..man,,,bc is one wierd,wierd, place,..no,me I am voting for NOTA,..and as far as lot of us are concerned,..vote for criminals??..you get crimes!!,..use your heads people,its far past the time when we have to put up with this kind of thing,..

I hope you're copy & pasting, you need to try paragraphs. I'm not even going to try and read that.

waste of time,...thats a paragraph,...here,s another..and another...

I vote Green which tells the two main parties they are both way off base and that my priority is the environment.

Voting "None of the Above" literally means nothing, unless you can get the laws changed so that a majority vote for NOTA would result in none of those candidates taking office. But, that is NOT going to happen. So, NOTA would just be another wasted vote.

Just like those that vote Green and for other splinter parties. They also waste their votes, because their candidates have no real chance of winning. They feel like they have done something, but what they have really done is to make it easier for the established politicians to hold office.

And I doubt if Real Rob has actually been involved in grass roots political affairs. if he had, he would not make the kinds of statements that he does about "pale faced, low IQ" politicians. He has absolutely no knowledge of those that start out in the local low level political offices (which is where the candidates for higher offices start out normally). That's where you can influence things. You promote, and work hard for, those that are starting out for the lowest level of political office. Then, you work hard to get them to the next level, and so on.

I know, I have been doing this for years. I don't always see my candidates make it, but a lot of them have.

But this process takes years, and likely real rob doesn't have the patience for that. he wants HIS candidates elected to the highest offices immediately.

Too bad that the majority of voters have no agreed with his positions. If they had, his politicians would be in office.

your right,I dont have time for that low of a grass root,my guy was elected but at the federal level,and it was by a landslide!,i and many others want to deal with these issues right now,not ten years down the road,by using the net in this fashion we have previously made some very big changes,very big,..I have contacts all over the world on these human rights issues and when I speak they and lot of others listen as they know I dont have an ego,its the issues that matter,not my party your party,no one at my level ever votes for the party,we vote for the person,and if the person is not up to snuff,we tell them so,some take this for what it is,information from the edge,..hard to come by for a lot of politicals,but they are learning,...some day we will hav e-voting and then we will really see some changes,the system in place is far too convoluted and far too corrupt,especialy when it takes years as you said to get anywhere,no wonder all the brains bail no??..no one these days has that kind of time unless they are some kind of egomaniac[gee ya think??]..think gordy and his buddies are reading this??..yes!!..Carol??..yes again!...they want my vote?..then get on the bit and do the job,we dont want to hear the excuses anymore,been there done that,heard them all over and over,..I will vote ndp but I want to see more changes and yes she has listened and gone after the corruption,..but not enough,..lets hear Carol say to us all,...we,the ndp,stand by the rule of law and we will!! abide by this rule without prejudice,...then I will vote for her,..I listen to as it happens Carol, every night,..show us/me...when I hear this I will donate and put your sign on my lawn just like I did for the last guy,..and it sure worked for him did it not?? ha ha,..

Really? What big changes have you and your world wide circle caused?

You say you don't have the time to work from the grass roots up. Well bucko, you sure as hell are not going to get the kinds of changes you claim to want any other way.

You can't even write a coherent paragraph. You run your words together like verbal diarrhea. If you can not communicate adequately, you have literally no chance of getting your point across, much less affecting real change.

But keep on smoking that good stuff, and dreaming your dreams. People that think like you make it so easy for those that REALLY know how the system works.

DONT SMOKE,AND i AM INTO ACTION NOT TALK,..MY MY,SUCH ANGER??..GOT A PROBLEM WITH ANGER MANAGEMENT DO WE??..MY "NET" INCLUDES SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE ON THE PLANET,...AND IF YOU CANT KEEP UP WITH MY WRITING GO ELSE WHERE,..NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO READ IT AFTER ALL,.HA HA,..YOU SOUND LIKE A PSYCHOPATH??..HAVE YOU CHECKED OUT DR R. HARES 20 PT PSYCHOPATH CHECK LIST??..IS THIS YOU??..AND YES HE,S ONE OF MY CONTACTS,SEE, dR .R .HARE UBC PSYCHOLOGY DEPT,COMPENSATED PSYCHOPATHS,PSYCHO IN A SUIT,AND PSYCHOPATHS DO NOT RESPOND TO PLEA,S,..ALSO,dR C LOGAN,u OF LIVERPOOL,...ALSO,..DR CURTISS DOEBBLER,..NABLUS PALESTINE,..HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE,..LET ME KNOW YOUR SCORE RE;DR HARES TEST,i AM CURIOUS??..