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From discussions I've had with qualified immigrants there is a sense of elitism that pervades our professional bodies.
A Doctor from Karachi University or for that matter or Delhi University is more than qualified. I would not hesitate having them operate on me. A doctor from Nigeria should be able to practice medicine in Canada once he lands in Canada. a doctor is a doctor.
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why can't canada accept professional designations from other countries?
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:08 PM
tom, on 03 November 2009 - 09:00 PM, said:
From discussions I've had with qualified immigrants there is a sense of elitism that pervades our professional bodies.
A Doctor from Karachi University or for that matter or Delhi University is more than qualified. I would not hesitate having them operate on me. A doctor from Nigeria should be able to practice medicine in Canada once he lands in Canada. a doctor is a doctor.
A Doctor from Karachi University or for that matter or Delhi University is more than qualified. I would not hesitate having them operate on me. A doctor from Nigeria should be able to practice medicine in Canada once he lands in Canada. a doctor is a doctor.
trolling attempt = FAIL
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:19 PM
tom, on 03 November 2009 - 09:00 PM, said:
From discussions I've had with qualified immigrants there is a sense of elitism that pervades our professional bodies.
A Doctor from Karachi University or for that matter or Delhi University is more than qualified. I would not hesitate having them operate on me. A doctor from Nigeria should be able to practice medicine in Canada once he lands in Canada. a doctor is a doctor.
A Doctor from Karachi University or for that matter or Delhi University is more than qualified. I would not hesitate having them operate on me. A doctor from Nigeria should be able to practice medicine in Canada once he lands in Canada. a doctor is a doctor.
Hey 'tom' why not register?
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:29 PM
They don't even have enough jobs for the locals but they need to trick the foreigners to come here {" Your experience and education is good!" etc gov propaganda} and spend the moneys.
Then again you are a troll, why do I even bother :P
Then again you are a troll, why do I even bother :P
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:30 PM
JNA, on 03 November 2009 - 10:29 PM, said:
They don't even have enough jobs for the locals but they need to trick the foreigners to come here {" Your experience and education is good!" etc gov propaganda} and spend the moneys.
Then again you are a troll, why do I even bother :P
Then again you are a troll, why do I even bother :P
Because you just can't help yourself.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:36 PM
JNA, on 03 November 2009 - 10:31 PM, said:
we have that in common thenThanks for the opening!
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:24 PM
just curious, on 03 November 2009 - 09:36 PM, said:
Thanks for the opening!
I suspect that is the only "opening" that you wish to take advantage of with jna
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:24 PM
JNA, on 03 November 2009 - 09:29 PM, said:
They don't even have enough jobs for the locals but they need to trick the foreigners to come here {" Your experience and education is good!" etc gov propaganda} and spend the moneys.
Then again you are a troll, why do I even bother :P
Then again you are a troll, why do I even bother :P
Um...trolling a troll makes you a troll. LOL. You are a %$@#!in' dumbass.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:27 PM
cc la femme, on 03 November 2009 - 11:24 PM, said:
I think that is the only "opening" that you wish to take advantage of with jna
Oh dear god! I couldn't possibly fathom a more revolting notion! lol!
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:13 PM
cc la femme, on 03 November 2009 - 11:24 PM, said:
I suspect that is the only "opening" that you wish to take advantage of with jna
Well I am actually a pretty nice person, I just have problems with stupid racist people.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:16 PM
JNA, on 04 November 2009 - 12:13 AM, said:
Well I am actually a pretty nice person, I just have problems with stupid racist people.
It's just that you're so incredibly masculine for some apparent reason.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 11:45 PM
just curious, on 04 November 2009 - 12:16 AM, said:
It's just that you're so incredibly masculine for some apparent reason.
I 'd say sorry to disappoint but I can't care less,
anyone expect to hear a dozen of 'It's sOoo like' talk? .. not gonna happen, not over here. That's just an extreme example, why I don't want to be harassed by internet pervs is another matter, i hope you understand, i am not really attention whore type. Anyway the modern pretentious phony 'girlie'-ness sucks donkey, I happened to find it un-sexy, it's one of the most useless annoying thing invented by/for stupid brainless women to attract even more stupid brainless men, say I am a person first, and I like to talk like one, not faking that girlieshit doesn't make one less of a woman, it does the opposite.
IF you think I sounded ' masculine' that may because you are lil feminine..
it's ok some women find it attractive.
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 07:42 AM
JNA, on 03 November 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:
Well I am actually a pretty nice person
JNA, on 03 November 2009 - 11:13 PM, said:
I just have problems with stupid racist people.
"As do we ALL, as do we all.
From obvious observation, seems those who constantly accuse invariably are the ones most guilty of what they accuse others of being. There is a lot of that going around here.
Seems this same so narrow type never can even take a mere word-play joke (unless it is upon someone else of course).
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:10 AM
OP is a troll
FAIL
FAIL
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:46 AM
While I appreciate the problems faced by
immigrant Professionals and think They may be having a tough time,
I think there is more
to the story. I don't think Professional standards,
and University credentials are completely equal
around the World. I think You have to be careful
when You talk about the credentials of an Engineer.
I can't say which Countries are better or worse in
this regards. Its complicated. I would imagine Indian
Doctors are fine because We get them Here.
immigrant Professionals and think They may be having a tough time,
I think there is more
to the story. I don't think Professional standards,
and University credentials are completely equal
around the World. I think You have to be careful
when You talk about the credentials of an Engineer.
I can't say which Countries are better or worse in
this regards. Its complicated. I would imagine Indian
Doctors are fine because We get them Here.
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:51 AM
. . . the professional standards of people trained in government services abroad - like for instance justice services - are very likely much higher than the incompetent, inept, corrupt who-gives-a-damn standards of the current canadian regime . . .
SOME LIKE IT BRUTAL
SOME LIKE IT BRUTAL
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:57 AM
postmaster.general, on 04 November 2009 - 10:51 AM, said:
. . . the professional standards of people trained in government services abroad - like for instance justice services - are very likely much higher than the incompetent, inept, corrupt who-gives-a-damn standards of the current canadian regime . . .
SOME LIKE IT BRUTAL
SOME LIKE IT BRUTAL
hey arent you that one convict?
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 11:20 AM
david o, on 04 November 2009 - 11:57 AM, said:
hey arent you that one convict?
. . . which one would that be?
SOME LIKE IT BRUTAL
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 11:36 AM
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 12:10 PM
What a stupid question. Professional degrees are evaluated by country and by specific degree. For example, a medical degree in country A may be excepted, while a structural engineering or architectural degree in country A may not be due to the difference in building codes. Also all degrees in country B may not be excepted for no reason other than that the country does not regulate their standards well enough.... even if that country does have an excellent education system on average.
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 12:16 PM
JNA, on 04 November 2009 - 12:45 AM, said:
I 'd say sorry to disappoint but I can't care less,
anyone expect to hear a dozen of 'It's sOoo like' talk? .. not gonna happen, not over here. That's just an extreme example, why I don't want to be harassed by internet pervs is another matter, i hope you understand, i am not really attention whore type. Anyway the modern pretentious phony 'girlie'-ness sucks donkey, I happened to find it un-sexy, it's one of the most useless annoying thing invented by/for stupid brainless women to attract even more stupid brainless men, say I am a person first, and I like to talk like one, not faking that girlieshit doesn't make one less of a woman, it does the opposite.
IF you think I sounded ' masculine' that may because you are lil feminine.. it's ok some women find it attractive.
anyone expect to hear a dozen of 'It's sOoo like' talk? .. not gonna happen, not over here. That's just an extreme example, why I don't want to be harassed by internet pervs is another matter, i hope you understand, i am not really attention whore type. Anyway the modern pretentious phony 'girlie'-ness sucks donkey, I happened to find it un-sexy, it's one of the most useless annoying thing invented by/for stupid brainless women to attract even more stupid brainless men, say I am a person first, and I like to talk like one, not faking that girlieshit doesn't make one less of a woman, it does the opposite.
IF you think I sounded ' masculine' that may because you are lil feminine..
it's ok some women find it attractive.Oh yeah, you don't care but then go on to write a whole paragraph...
Idiot!
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 06:09 PM
Because not all countries have the same level of training that Canada does. In addition, if they are to practice in Canada, they must be very familiar with English or French. Not all foreign trained people are fluent in either of those languages.
I can't speak for Canada, but in the States, if the person can pass the local Medical Examinations, and prove the equivalent education, they can obtain a medical license. There are a LOT of foreign trained physicians in the US and in Canada.
I can't speak for Canada, but in the States, if the person can pass the local Medical Examinations, and prove the equivalent education, they can obtain a medical license. There are a LOT of foreign trained physicians in the US and in Canada.
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 06:36 PM
tom, on 03 November 2009 - 08:00 PM, said:
From discussions I've had with qualified immigrants there is a sense of elitism that pervades our professional bodies.
A Doctor from Karachi University or for that matter or Delhi University is more than qualified. I would not hesitate having them operate on me. A doctor from Nigeria should be able to practice medicine in Canada once he lands in Canada. a doctor is a doctor.
A Doctor from Karachi University or for that matter or Delhi University is more than qualified. I would not hesitate having them operate on me. A doctor from Nigeria should be able to practice medicine in Canada once he lands in Canada. a doctor is a doctor.
some...not all...buy their credentials...why take a chance at all. It is the best interests of Canada to ensure that these people are educated to our standards and verified
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 07:37 PM
I have worked with a lot of technical people from a lot of different countries and I can tell you from my experience, besides those people from the US and UK, they are NOT as well qualified as they claim and as their documents claim.
They most often do not understand the western work processes, they do not undertand contracting, they do not understand cold weather design considerations, they do not understand how westerners will behave under different circumstances, they do not undertand most of our codes or why they were developed or how to apply them, they do not often know how to work in teams (they cannot contribute), they do not or seem to never take initiative to take work to the next step, when they do the task they have been give to do, they just wait for the next instruction......etc...etc.
And as was mentioned above, they have difficulty communicating in english and asking them to write a report is almost hopeless.....
I don't want to leave the impression every immigrant is like this but my experience is that this is the case with most of them..
When you have to do a job within certain time/cost constraints, you are almost always best to use graduates from western countries, otherwise you cannot complete in the market place..
They most often do not understand the western work processes, they do not undertand contracting, they do not understand cold weather design considerations, they do not understand how westerners will behave under different circumstances, they do not undertand most of our codes or why they were developed or how to apply them, they do not often know how to work in teams (they cannot contribute), they do not or seem to never take initiative to take work to the next step, when they do the task they have been give to do, they just wait for the next instruction......etc...etc.
And as was mentioned above, they have difficulty communicating in english and asking them to write a report is almost hopeless.....
I don't want to leave the impression every immigrant is like this but my experience is that this is the case with most of them..
When you have to do a job within certain time/cost constraints, you are almost always best to use graduates from western countries, otherwise you cannot complete in the market place..
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:41 PM
GraveDigger, on 04 November 2009 - 06:36 PM, said:
some...not all...buy their credentials...why take a chance at all. It is the best interests of Canada to ensure that these people are educated to our standards and verified
agredd 100%
why risk it
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The Old medic, on 04 November 2009 - 07:09 PM, said:
Because not all countries have the same level of training that Canada does. In addition, if they are to practice in Canada, they must be very familiar with English or French. Not all foreign trained people are fluent in either of those languages.
I can't speak for Canada, but in the States, if the person can pass the local Medical Examinations, and prove the equivalent education, they can obtain a medical license. There are a LOT of foreign trained physicians in the US and in Canada.
I can't speak for Canada, but in the States, if the person can pass the local Medical Examinations, and prove the equivalent education, they can obtain a medical license. There are a LOT of foreign trained physicians in the US and in Canada.
True. In some third-world countries, a person may be called "Doctor" simply because he knows how to bandage a wound or concoct an herbal brew for a stomach ache. But in Canada, he must be up to Canadian standards & qualified to competantly treat Canadian patients.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 07:29 PM
GraveDigger, on 04 November 2009 - 07:36 PM, said:
some...not all...buy their credentials...why take a chance at all. It is the best interests of Canada to ensure that these people are educated to our standards and verified
no wonder this country is so backward, so many ignorant narrowminded dumb racist people like yourself.
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 07:46 PM
JNA, on 05 November 2009 - 07:29 PM, said:
no wonder this country is so backward, so many ignorant narrowminded dumb racist people like yourself.
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