if you voted for Harper, shame on you. Harper destroyed the economy
#1 jake
Posted 20 November 2009 - 08:48 AM
#3
Posted 20 November 2009 - 09:20 AM
#5
Posted 20 November 2009 - 09:53 AM
Be it Provincial or Federal, Governments get FAR too much Credit when the economy is good and FAR too much flack when the economy is in the tank.
And Yes, I am a FEDERAL Liberal Supporter, and YES, they needed a wake up call after getting too comfortable with our cash.
Right Wing Conservative Ideaology DOES NOT WORK. Period. You need to have a more centred approach to running this wonderful country of ours. THAT is the basis of the Federal Liberal Party.
Conservatives have done a few things tho, like adding funding to our military to bring it up do date. This is something The Federal Liberals should have maintained.
Bill C-15 2009 however, has good optics in the public eye, because it is marketed as a 'Crime Bill', but as you will all see, it will do little to reduce any crime. On soft crimes, like Pot Posession, a choice of getting Rehab or taking the charge will serve only to 'make it appear' that Pot has more Raheb than any other drug... Just l;ike America's abysmal failure in this area. To what end I ask?
Conservatives wanted to outlaw Abortion. Conservatives wanted to outlaw Gay Marriage. Conservatives passed a ridiculous bill on the consensual age of sex marketing it on the platform that Canada somehow is a haven for old pervs seeking sexual favours from minors. Has it changed anything? NO. It got them votes tho'. So now we get to make criminals out of young teenagers who engage in the 'coming of age' aspect of thier young lives. Nice. Way to go Conservatives.
As a father of 3 daughters, being an involved parent did more do steer them in the right direction to avoid such creeps than any law would do, never mind there are currently 11 laws on the plate already that The Federal Liberals put in place that make this activity highly illegal. (Seaech Child Abuse and Child exploitation laws in Canada as well as CKNW - Bill Good Show)
There, I think I am done with my little rant. Bottom Line, Religious Right Wing Conservative Ideaology DOES NOT WORK.
Thank You, Have a nice day.
#6
Posted 20 November 2009 - 09:55 AM
PRDave, on 20 November 2009 - 09:53 AM, said:
Trying to say this without accusation, not my intent, but.....
One of the things that amuses me the most is Canadian Liberals condemning the Canadian conservative party support the US Democrats & Obamessiah, even though the ideology & agenda is nearly identical across Obama, Harper & Ignatieff. There is very little difference there.
#7
Posted 20 November 2009 - 10:01 AM
Goat Boy©, on 20 November 2009 - 09:55 AM, said:
One of the things that amuses me the most is Canadian Liberals condemning the Canadian conservative party support the US Democrats & Obamessiah, even though the ideology & agenda is nearly identical across Obama, Harper & Ignatieff. There is very little difference there.
Yeah, well when it comes to the Banterings of ANY political party, they say what they have too in order to gain or maintain power. I take it all with a grain of salt these days.....
:-)
#10
Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:28 PM
#11
Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:32 PM
smelly, on 20 November 2009 - 12:28 PM, said:
I really don't think the blame Obama wheel is turning at this point, but it is definitely coming.
I'll also wager $500 that he doesn't see a second term. Unless he 'Bush's' the election.
#12
Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:38 PM
Goat Boy©, on 20 November 2009 - 12:32 PM, said:
I hate to agree with you - but i think you're right..when there's ecconomic problems - people ALWAYS blame the person in power - whether the issues were out of their control or not.
It doesnt really bother me either way if he stays or goes.. i'm am a tad bit concerned about palin or another bush getting in power though.
#13
Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:39 PM
smelly, on 20 November 2009 - 12:38 PM, said:
It doesnt really bother me either way if he stays or goes.. i'm am a tad bit concerned about palin or another bush getting in power though.
Yup. Not much of an alternative. Who knows, maybe it's finally Nader's turn.....in a pigs eye.
#14
Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:42 PM
PRDave, on 20 November 2009 - 09:53 AM, said:
Be it Provincial or Federal, Governments get FAR too much Credit when the economy is good and FAR too much flack when the economy is in the tank.
And Yes, I am a FEDERAL Liberal Supporter, and YES, they needed a wake up call after getting too comfortable with our cash.
Right Wing Conservative Ideaology DOES NOT WORK. Period. You need to have a more centred approach to running this wonderful country of ours. THAT is the basis of the Federal Liberal Party.
Conservatives have done a few things tho, like adding funding to our military to bring it up do date. This is something The Federal Liberals should have maintained.
Bill C-15 2009 however, has good optics in the public eye, because it is marketed as a 'Crime Bill', but as you will all see, it will do little to reduce any crime. On soft crimes, like Pot Posession, a choice of getting Rehab or taking the charge will serve only to 'make it appear' that Pot has more Raheb than any other drug... Just l;ike America's abysmal failure in this area. To what end I ask?
Conservatives wanted to outlaw Abortion. Conservatives wanted to outlaw Gay Marriage. Conservatives passed a ridiculous bill on the consensual age of sex marketing it on the platform that Canada somehow is a haven for old pervs seeking sexual favours from minors. Has it changed anything? NO. It got them votes tho'. So now we get to make criminals out of young teenagers who engage in the 'coming of age' aspect of thier young lives. Nice. Way to go Conservatives.
As a father of 3 daughters, being an involved parent did more do steer them in the right direction to avoid such creeps than any law would do, never mind there are currently 11 laws on the plate already that The Federal Liberals put in place that make this activity highly illegal. (Seaech Child Abuse and Child exploitation laws in Canada as well as CKNW - Bill Good Show)
There, I think I am done with my little rant. Bottom Line, Religious Right Wing Conservative Ideaology DOES NOT WORK.
Thank You, Have a nice day.
Dude, it's a troll thread.
#15
Posted 20 November 2009 - 12:52 PM
The war in Afghanistan and infrastructure spending to help recover from the so called recession
Canada was taken into the war by the Liberals
Infrastructure spending was forced on the Conservatives by the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition.
#16
Posted 20 November 2009 - 04:15 PM
Harry Balls, on 20 November 2009 - 12:52 PM, said:
The war in Afghanistan and infrastructure spending to help recover from the so called recession
Canada was taken into the war by the Liberals
Infrastructure spending was forced on the Conservatives by the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition.
I have no problem with infrastructure spending.
Our involvement in Afghanistan is part of our obligation to NATO, and was a wise decision considering they were harboring Bin Laden. That mission has lost focus under Harper's government.
I don't recall whether the Conservatives blasted the Liberals for not going to Iraq, but I'm sure we'd be there if it were Harper's gov't in power at the time.
That said, Harper sucks Satan's cawk, but is not responsible for the recession. We've weathered it better because of Liberal policies, though.
This post has been edited by Zebra: 20 November 2009 - 04:21 PM
#18
Posted 20 November 2009 - 04:22 PM
Zebra, on 20 November 2009 - 04:15 PM, said:
Disagree. Not worth the political capital, that would be like Harper trying to ban abortion. The country would never, ever stand for it. He'd get Dion'd.
Zebra, on 20 November 2009 - 04:15 PM, said:
Can you expand on that?
#19
Posted 20 November 2009 - 04:24 PM
#20
Posted 20 November 2009 - 04:47 PM
Goat Boy©, on 20 November 2009 - 04:22 PM, said:
Harper would have followed Bush to fight terrorists on Mars if Bush said it should be done.
I know this is a blog/editorial, but the vital links to confirm Harper's stance on Iraq are there:
http://mikewatkins.c...-war-with-iraq/
No doubt we'd be in Iraq if Harper and his Bush-worshipping den of dolts had their way.
I'll post the relevant links to how Liberal policies saved us from disaster after dinner.
This post has been edited by Zebra: 20 November 2009 - 04:53 PM
#21
Posted 20 November 2009 - 04:48 PM
p.s. I voted for Harper and will continue to do so....!
#22
Posted 20 November 2009 - 06:09 PM
#23
Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:33 PM
Goat Boy©, on 20 November 2009 - 04:22 PM, said:
Under the Liberals, the CMHC could only insure mortgages with a minimum of 5% down, and a 30 year amortization. As soon as the Conservatives came into power, they changed it to 0 down and 40 year mortgages, which is exactly what caused the global financial crisis in the first place. They finally reversed their policy long after the world knew that the US mortgage crisis was heading the planet's economy down the toilet.
They even campaigned on the stunningly ignorant platform that there was nothing wrong with the economy.
This post has been edited by Zebra: 20 November 2009 - 07:36 PM
#24
Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:35 PM
#26
Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:36 PM
#27
Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:38 PM
PRDave, on 20 November 2009 - 07:36 PM, said:
I've posted as guest twice now, by accident, after I was bumped off frombeing logged in and didn't know. The message then appears that a moderator will review it before it is published.
#28
Posted 20 November 2009 - 07:55 PM
#30
Posted 21 November 2009 - 01:07 AM
Harper's not bad, but you know the saying, "Power Corrupts, and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely."
If Harper had a majority, he'd probably be just like Sleazoid Campbell.
Stomping on people, stepping on toes.
I don't know why people want massive majorities.
The Blighters never do anything for anyone but the Elite & the Average Joe and Jane don't end up getting anything.
This post has been edited by .or?: 21 November 2009 - 01:08 AM
#31
Posted 21 November 2009 - 01:09 AM
#32
Posted 21 November 2009 - 01:21 AM
#33
Posted 21 November 2009 - 01:27 AM
#34
Posted 21 November 2009 - 01:31 AM
Zetsu, on 21 November 2009 - 01:27 AM, said:
Uh, actually? harper government is all about immigrants -- they are all about lowering the canadian dollar.
a faux pas re: economics, that they claim they are "good at"
and hey - do you have a gf? cause the harper government wants them to be paid nothing.
oh yes - forgot to mention, he refuses national daycare, but wants immigrants to do it to gain citizenship.
did ya wake up yet?
This post has been edited by Wires: 21 November 2009 - 01:33 AM
#35
Posted 21 November 2009 - 01:41 AM

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